[tlhIngan Hol] A ridiculous event

[mayqel qunenoS]

SuStel:
> Or to look at it another way: at what point do
> you finish starting? Can you point to the
> moment that *-DI'* points to, when the starting
> is completed and something else happens?

I see.. Indeed I can't define a specific point at which I finish starting
and something else happens. So, I understand that trying to combine the
{-ta'} with the {-choH} is indeed weird.

however, since this came up let me ask you about this:

SuStel:
> Whether *-ta'* must refer to only the verb or can
> be applied to the *-choH* is not a settled issue

this "not settled issue" concerns only the {-ta'} and {-choH} (when they
co-exist) at the same verb, or does it extend to all kinds of verb suffixes
?

qunnoH
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

On 23 Nov 2016 6:06 pm, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:

> On 11/23/2016 10:44 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
> jIH:
> > jIHaDchoHta'DI'
> SuStel:
> > jIHaDchoHDI'
>
> I was trying to express "as soon as I had started studying", trying to
> give emphasis to the fact that "my starting" had been completed. But now I
> wonder: In the {jIHaDchoHta'DI'}, is it possible for the {-ta'} to refer to
> the {-choH}, or does it exclusively refer to the verb ?
>
>
> Saying *jIHaDchoHDI'* doesn't mean the starting of your studying is
> incomplete. It does mean that studying has started. Although it isn't
> described this way in *TKD,* *-choH* is a kind of aspect just like *-pu',
> -taH,* and the other type 7s are. Aspect describes how an action behaves
> over time. *-choH* describes the action as suddenly starting, then
> continuing from that point. Combining *-choH* and *-DI'* is enough to say
> "as soon as this starting point arrives."
>
> Whether *-ta'* must refer to only the verb or can be applied to the
> *-choH* is not a settled issue, but I don't think you need to resolve it
> to say what you're trying to say. You're interested in a starting point,
> not a stopping point. *-ta'* describes a stopping point; *-choH*
> describes a starting point.
>
> Or to look at it another way: at what point do you finish starting? Can
> you point to the moment that *-DI'* points to, when the starting is
> completed and something else happens?
>
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