[tlhIngan Hol] When we return from the battlefield, who will we be then ?

[mayqel qunenoS]

ok, thanks !

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, André Müller <esperantist at gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh, it just means that it's a way of speaking *about* something said. You
> make an utterance, and then you say something about it (in Klingon), e.g.
> where you got the information from, how sure you are, etc.
>
> Also, by the way, since {'e'} is essentially an (anaphoric) pronoun
> ("that"), you sort of *have* two different sentences, they're just linked
> together more closely, without a real break. It could theoretically and
> probably was, etymologically: {ngeD yIn. 'e' vIHar.}
> Just like English "I hope that life will be easy." comes from a structure
> with two seperate sentences: "I hope that: Life will be easy." Same in
> German, where "das" was then changed to "daß/dass" if it introduces a
> sentence.
>
> 2016-06-29 10:20 GMT+02:00 mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com>:
>>
>> > it's a sort of metalinguistic device putting your proposition into
>> > context
>>
>> you lost me here completely ! this sounds pretty cool, but I have no
>> idea what it means..
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:53 AM, André Müller <esperantist at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > 2016-06-29 9:22 GMT+02:00 mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >> ghunchu'wI':
>> >
>> >
>> > [snip]
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I was trying to avoid using the SAO, because I feel it is the only
>> >> thing in klingon which is not direct.
>> >>
>> >> Unlike in english, where we say : "we believe that..", in klingon one
>> >> must first make a statement, then take a coffee break, then say the
>> >> {'e'} - without the reader/listener - knowing that it will actually
>> >> come, and only then continue with the rest of the SAO.
>> >>
>> >
>> > On the contrary. I believe that this way of phrasing it is especially
>> > direct. Saying that you "believe" (or think, hope etc.) something first
>> > isn't direct either, it's a sort of metalinguistic device putting your
>> > proposition into context. I think it's very direct to first say the
>> > statement and then add how sure you are about it. And it goes well
>> > together
>> > with the general OVS word order.
>> > Also, a lot of natural languages do it just like that: saying the
>> > statement/quotation and then adding "I say/think/hope" etc.
>> > I think making 2 sentences out of 1 very short one might strike Klingons
>> > as
>> > wasting time or something...
>> >
>> > But I usually don't think of Klingon philosophy when writing or saying
>> > something in the language. I don't believe that a language's structure
>> > reflects the philosophy of its speakers (like the old myths about German
>> > being very precise, Chinese being very philosophical, French being full
>> > of
>> > emotions, Russian or Arabic being harsh, etc.).
>> >
>> > - André
>> >
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