[tlhIngan Hol] Ambiguity with regards to the beneficiary

John R. Harness cartweel at gmail.com
Mon Jul 4 02:37:38 PDT 2016


This ambiguity is real with -vaD but I think that common sense generally
sorts out any seemingly strange phrases. If not, perhaps an author is
trying to make a point, or emphasize something surreal, or be poetic. You
will have to interpret the sentence in its context. For what it's worth,
sometimes I've found a useful translation of -vaD to be "for the sake of."

wo'vaD yISub'eghmoH
For the sake of the empire, make yourself brave!


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On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 3:12 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:

> We know that the {-vaD}, is to be used only for the purpose of marking
> the beneficiary/indirect object.
>
> When we had discussed the definition of the beneficiary/indirect
> object, we said :
>
> "the beneficiary/indirect object, is the one affected in a different
> way than the direct object".
>
> So, now I will ask : What if there is an ambiguity, as far as the
> "whether the wanna-be indirect object is actually affected ?".
>
> Take this example for instance :
>
> ghawran says to a soldier : "for the klingon empire be brave !"
>
> Someone could argue that the klingon empire, isn't the beneficiary.
> Why ? Because it is not affected by the "being brave" of the
> individual warrior. If he's a coward, then that's his problem, qar'a'
> ?
>
> Someone else though could say that the klingon empire is honored when
> a warrion is brave, therefore it is to be considered the beneficiary.
>
> So, what's the case here ?
>
> If anyone knows the answer, then please endarken me..
>
> mop Hurgh qunnoq
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