[tlhIngan Hol] to qaStaHvIS or not to qaStaHvIS

[mayqel qunenoS]

thank you ca'non master !

however before I sleep, there is a final question I need to ask, in order
to verify that I accurately understood this matter.

if I want to say "for many years, I have my phone's sound level set at
maximum", then there are two options:

{DIS law', ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqroS patlh vIlo'}
or
{qaStaHvIS DIS law', ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqroS patlh vIlo'}

if I understand correctly what was said so far, then at this example the
{qaStaHvIS} is unnecessary, right ? we can use it if we want, but it isn't
necessary, right ?

qunnoH jan puqloD
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
SuvwI'pu'qoq Hol tughojmoHta'mo' Satlho'

On 27 Dec 2016 8:53 pm, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:

> Use the corresponding verbs {Qoj} or {ghob}:
>
>
>
>
>
> (KGT 47):  In parallel fashion, any specific *battle* is {*may'}*, but
> the concept of battle is {*vIq}*, often translated as *combat*.
> Similarly, there are several verbs for *fight*, *battle*, and the like.
> Most broadly, *do battle* or *wage war*--that is, actually engage in a
> conflict in which a number of combatants are involved--is {*ghob}*. The
> notion of *make war* in the general sense, referring to the *idea* of war
> and not a *specific* war, is {*Qoj}*. The verb for *fight*, whether in a
> war or a one-on-one confrontation, is {*Suv}*. In short, the nouns {*veS}*
> (*war, warfare*) and {*vIq}* (*combat*) and the verb {*Qoj}* (*wage war*)
> all are used to refer to the ideas of warfare, combat, and making war,
> while the nouns {*noH}* (*war*) and {*may'}* (*battle*) and the verbs {
> *ghob}* (*make war*, *do battle*) and {*Suv}* (*fight*) are used when
> referring to specific, concrete instances of war, battle, and fighting.
> Thus it is possible to say ... {*may' ghob}* or {*may' Suv}*, meaning *He/she
> fights a battle*, but it is not normally acceptable to say ... {*vIq Suv}*
> (*He/she fights a combat*).
>
>
>
> --Voragh
>
>
> *On Behalf Of *mayqel qunenoS
>
> SuStel:
>
> > I don't think one can yIn a may'
>
>
>
> hehehe.. you're right ! I just couldn't think of any other word !
>
> qunnoH jan puqloD
> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>
>
>
> On 27 Dec 2016 8:29 pm, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
>
> On 12/27/2016 1:24 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
> SuStel:
>
> > like a single fight during a period of three
>
> > years
>
>
>
> I guess this means something like:
>
>
>
> {qaStaHvIS wej DIS wa' may' neH wIyIn}
>
> we only had one battle during three years
>
>
>
> right ?
>
>
>
> Er... I don't think one can *yIn* a *may'*... But *qaStaHvIS wej DIS wa'
> may' neH wISuv* would be correct.
>
>
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