[tlhIngan Hol] ghorgh and nuqDaq next to nouns

[mayqel qunenoS]

qurgh:
> Where is the rule that they can't be part of a
> noun-noun construction, I must have missed
> it?

SuStel wrote this a few days ago, at the "who shall call them from the
twilight ?" thread.

qunnoH jan puqloD
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

On 16 Dec 2016 2:21 pm, "qurgh lungqIj" <qurgh at wizage.net> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 6:24 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> to continue on something which I asked yesterday..
>>
>> we said that we can't have {'Iv} and {nuq} as part of noun-noun
>>
>
> We can't? I thought {nuq} and {'Iv} just go into whatever noun spot
> contains the missing information. Where is the rule that they can't be part
> of a noun-noun construction, I must have missed it?
>
> I would have expected the following to be grammatical:
>
> {tIn 'Iv Duj} - Who's ship is big?
> {Hab SoSwI' nuq} - My mother's what is smooth?
>
>
>> constructions. but can we have the {ghorgh} and {nuqDaq} existing next
>> to nouns ?
>>
>> for example can we say:
>>
>> {ghorgh DaSjaj mamej}
>> when do we depart on monday ?
>>
>> {DaSjaj ghorgh mamej}
>> on monday when do we depart
>>
>
> I would put {ghorgh} first (same with {chay'} and {qatlh}), so the
> listener knows right away that it's a question, although as with a lot of
> the chuvmey, they just "occur at the beginning of the sentence", and the
> specific order is down to personal preference most of the time.
>
>
>>
>> {nuqDaq tera'Daq mIl'oDmey tu'lu'}
>> where on earth someone finds bears ?
>>
>> {tera'Daq nuqDaq mIl'oDmey tu'lu'}
>> on earth where someone finds bears ?
>>
>
> Since {nuqDaq} is a locative phrase just like {tera'Daq}, they can go
> either way around, although I'd put it in the spot where's I'd expect the
> answer to be:
>
> tera'Daq nuqDaq mIl'oDmey tu'lu'? tera'Daq HuDaq mIl'oDmey tu'lu'.
>
> qurgh
>
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