[tlhIngan Hol] To indicate many millenia ago
SuStel
sustel at trimboli.name
Tue Dec 6 09:04:31 PST 2016
I can understand the hesitancy with using *ben law'.* As a time
expression, *ben* by itself points to a time, albeit a vague one. But
it's a noun that indicates a point in time. So what does it mean if you
have more than one *ben*? What are *benmey*?
Surely we already know the answer to that: *cha' ben* means /two years
ago,/ so *cha' benmey* also means /two years ago./ Multiple *benmey*
means exactly the same thing as singular *ben*. So I see no grammatical
reason why we can't speak of *ben law'*. *wa' ben, cha' ben, ben
law'*/one year ago, two years ago, many years ago./
As for the original question, I'm not sure I see any significant
difference between *SaD law' ben* and *SaD ben law'.* I think I'd go for
the former, since it makes more sense to me to speak of years ago
counting in the many thousands, rather than having many thousand-years-agos.
On 12/6/2016 11:46 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
>
> Andre Muller:
> > I might also accept {ben law'} as many years
> > ago, although I'm not sure it works well.
>
> I remember voragh once writing: {ben law'qu'} has been used many times
> on this list to indicate "once upon a time".
>
> Now, as far as the three possible choices I wrote are concerned, I
> think that they are all valid with the meaning only slightly changing
> from one to the other:
>
> {SaD DIS ret law'} = many (thousands of years ago)
>
> {SaD DIS law' ret} = (many thousands of years) ago
>
> {SaD law' DIS ret} = (many thousands) of years ago
>
> If the above analysis is correct, then perhaps this all comes down to
> personal preference.
>
> qunnoH jan puqloD
> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>
>
> On 6 Dec 2016 6:32 pm, "André Müller" <esperantist at gmail.com
> <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Don't forget that "years ago" is {ben}, so you can either say:
> 1) {SaD DIS law' ret} = many millennia ago, or
> 2) {SaD law' ben} = many thousand years ago.
> And these essentially mean the same.
>
> I might also accept {ben law'} as many years ago, although I'm not
> sure it works well.
>
> - André
>
> 2016-12-06 16:01 GMT+01:00 mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com
> <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>>:
>
> In order to indicate "many millenia ago", which is the correct
> choice ?
>
> {SaD DIS ret law'}, {SaD DIS law' ret} or {SaD law' DIS ret} ?
>
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SuStel
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