[tlhIngan Hol] paq'batlh mu'tlhegh

[mayqel qunenoS]

this just occured to me..

paq'batlh doesn't have punctuation, right ? so, what if at the original
sentence the punctuation goes:

{DaH, naDev, jIHtaHbogh meq Saja'}

if that would be the case, I could accept this as "now, here, I will tell
you my reason of being".

granted, perhaps this produces a different meaning than the given one, but
its the only solution I can think of.

damn, this sentence drives me crazy !

qunnoH jan puqloD
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

On 19 Dec 2016 11:36 am, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:

> De'vID:
> > {naDev ghaHtaH} means "he/she is here".
>
> Yes, I can understand this; but if at the above sentence we had the
> {-bogh} ({naDev ghaHtaHbogh}), then what would that mean ?
>
> My difficulty in understanding the original paq'batlh sentence,
> had/has to do with accepting the {naDev jIHtaHbogh} as a noun.
>
> If that sentence went: {DaH naDev jIHtaH meq Saja'}, then I could read
> it as "now, the reason of my being here, I will tell you". But the
> addition of {-bogh} severely messes me up. It is its presence that I
> can't explain.
>
> qunnoH jan puqloD
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:51 AM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2016 09:24, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > De'vID:
> >
> >> {naDev jIHtaHbogh} is a noun.
> >
> > I can't understand how this could be correct as a {-bogh}ed noun.
> >
> > I know we can say {paq qanobta'bogh} for "the book which I gave you". but
> > here the {paq} is the object of {nob}.
> >
> > On the {naDev jIHtaHbogh} is the {naDev} an object ? and if yes, the
> object
> > of what verb ? the object of {jIH} ? I can understand the {jIH} taking an
> > object in the context of {SuvwI' jIH}. but then, the {naDev jIHtaH} would
> > mean "I am here" not in the sense "I am present here", but in the sense
> "I
> > am the here".
> >
> > The SkyBox {Qo'noS} card has the following sentence:
> > {pa’ ’oH­taH vaS­’a’ ’e’.}
> > "This is where the Klingon Great Hall is located"
> >
> > That no more means "the Great Hall is 'the there'" than {naDev jIHtaH}
> means
> > "I am 'the here'."
> >
> > The suffix {-taH} indicates an ongoing activity, and "being at a
> location"
> > is apparently considered a type of ongoing activity.
> >
> > See also KGT p.25:
> > {tera'ngan ghaH qama''e'} "The prisoner is a Terran"
> > {bIghHa'Daq ghaHtaH qama''e'} "The prisoner is in the prison"
> >
> > Even though that sentence has a {-Daq}ed noun, the structure is
> essentially
> > the same. {bIghHa'Daq ghaHtaH} means "he/she is in prison", and {naDev
> > ghaHtaH} means "he/she is here".
> >
> > --
> > De'vID
> >
> >
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