[tlhIngan Hol] The contradiction of {bortaS}

MorphemeAddict lytlesw at gmail.com
Sun Aug 7 07:40:59 PDT 2016


No, my point was that it's not a Terran 'carry-over'. The Klingon and
English just happen to coincide in this case.
What rules are you talking about? The only ones I know of are that 1) canon
is supreme and non-canon, even if understandable, is suspect, at best, and
2) logic and English (or other languages') grammar or usage have no bearing
on Klingon grammar and usage.

lay'SIv

On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:

> this argument is invalid ; it sounds like "shut up don't ask ; you will
> accept one phrase and reject another because we say so, and you'll like it".
>
> rules are rules. either accept "terran carry-overs" or reject them
> altogether.
>
> mop qIj qunnoq
> Sent from my goat phone
>
> On 7 Aug 2016 4:51 p.m., "MorphemeAddict" <lytlesw at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The difference is that *bortaS bIr jablu'* is an attested native
>> (canonical) Klingon phrase, whereas *bortaS tlhap* is not so attested.
>> Languages can share the same metaphor, but don't have to.
>>
>> lay'tel SIvten
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 4:24 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Some time ago we had said, that we can't say {bortaS vItlhap} for "I
>>> take revenge". Why ? Because the "I take revenge" is an english phrase.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, we do say "bortas bIr jabblu' go figure", which is
>>> definitely an english phrase.
>>>
>>> This is a contradictory situation which confuses me greatly.
>>>
>>> mop qIj qunnoq
>>> Sent from my goat phone
>>>
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