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Congratulations, Lieven! A truly impressive feat! (And I was surprised to learn from the wiki article that _Alice in Wonderland_ was published in 1865 -- I imagined it coming out closer to the previous turn-of-the-century.) But the obvious question for conlangers and conlang aficionados: How did you manage to translate: "-I quite agree with you, said the Duchess; and the moral of that is-’Be what you would seem to be’-or, if you’d like it put more simply-’Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise.’"? Also, *woSwa' ghew* is defined as a rolling bug. Does that mean an isopod crustacean, i.e. a pillbug? (I call them pillbugs, my mother calls them sowbugs, my sister calls them roly-polies.)
Am 11.11.2021 um 06:38 schrieb James Landau:
How did you manage to translate: "-I quite agree with you, said the Duchess; and the moral of that is-’Be what you would seem to be’-or, if you’d like it put more simply-’Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise.’"?
THAT really is a good question. I think that from the entire book, this part is the most confusing and most complicated sentence of all. Surely, the questio also is: What does that sentence mean, and does it make sense at all? Anyhow, I believe that the Klingon version is as confusing as it the original. I'll skip my literal backtranslation first here, just to see if you can make anything out if this. I'm very curious to see your reactions to this. »jIQochbe’qu’,« jatlh qumwI’, »’ej DughuHmoH ngoDvam—<vay’’e’ Darur DaneHbogh yIDa>—’ach, chaq mu’mey ngeD DamaSchugh—<latlhpu’vaD pImbe’law’bogh vay’’e’ SoH not ’e’ yIjal. pImbe’ vay’ SoHbogh, chaHvaD jaS vay’vamvaD vay’ pIm’e’ luDambogh je ’e’ luQub latlhpu’.>«
Also, *woSwa' ghew* is defined as a rolling bug. Does that mean an isopod crustacean, i.e. a pillbug? (I call them pillbugs, my mother calls them sowbugs, my sister calls them roly-polies.)
Of course I cannot tell more than what Maltz said, but I guess that this word can be used to describe the bugs you mentioned. Of course, the Klingon animal might look very different, but we just don't know. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/AliceInWonderland
On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 at 10:15, James Landau <savegraduation@yahoo.com> wrote:
Also, *woSwa' ghew* is defined as a rolling bug. Does that mean an isopod crustacean, i.e. a pillbug? (I call them pillbugs, my mother calls them sowbugs, my sister calls them roly-polies.)
Given that {woSwa'} is described as being like an armadillo and the pillbug belongs to the taxonomic family Armadillidiidae, I'd say so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armadillidiidae -- De'vID
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