Carl Buck's alphasyllabary
I was just browsing Fiat Lingua, the online conlanging academic journal, when I discovered the December 2024 article: a piece by Klingonist Carl Buck (a.k.a. Masako) that develops a rather-alien alphasyllabary for Klingon: https://fiatlingua.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/fl-00009F-00.pdf Check it out!
He showed up on the KLI Discord server and received some compliments and some criticisms. He didn't like the criticisms and left very quickly. ________________________________ From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2025 3:57 PM To: tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> Cc: James Landau <savegraduation@yahoo.com> Subject: [tlhIngan Hol] Carl Buck's alphasyllabary I was just browsing Fiat Lingua, the online conlanging academic journal, when I discovered the December 2024 article: a piece by Klingonist Carl Buck (a.k.a. Masako) that develops a rather-alien alphasyllabary for Klingon: https://fiatlingua.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/fl-00009F-00.pdf Check it out!
That sounds like the Masako I know. He quit the CBB (the conlanging forum where I post) a few years ago. Carl Buck has always loved designing scripts or adapting scripts for new languages, including his own conlangs. Qatama, a conlang he abandoned several years ago (whose Romanization was originally very Klingonish -- D for a plain old /d/, q for /k/, Q for /q/, etc.), had something like three or four different con-scripts that could be used to write it. On the CBB, I once commented, when discussing how my focus in conlanging was not on scripts, "Unlike such posters as Masako, I only have one alphabet, abjad, or syllabary for each language I create, if I've developed one at all". Masako replied: "I sorta almost feel like this is a dig at me, but whatevs". (I replied: "Oh no, it's not a dig. I FAIL at con-scripting compared to you!") On Wednesday, January 22, 2025 at 06:11:38 PM PST, janSIy . <kenjutsuka@live.com> wrote: He showed up on the KLI Discord server and received some compliments and some criticisms. He didn't like the criticisms and left very quickly. From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2025 3:57 PM To: tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> Cc: James Landau <savegraduation@yahoo.com> Subject: [tlhIngan Hol] Carl Buck's alphasyllabary I was just browsing Fiat Lingua, the online conlanging academic journal, when I discovered the December 2024 article: a piece by Klingonist Carl Buck (a.k.a. Masako) that develops a rather-alien alphasyllabary for Klingon: https://fiatlingua.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/fl-00009F-00.pdf Check it out!
Almost forgot to mention that Carl Buck/Masako was the one who started the Klingon-English dictionary up at https://www.frathwiki.com/Klingon/lexicon, a document I now maintain! On Wednesday, January 22, 2025 at 06:11:38 PM PST, janSIy . <kenjutsuka@live.com> wrote: He showed up on the KLI Discord server and received some compliments and some criticisms. He didn't like the criticisms and left very quickly. From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2025 3:57 PM To: tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> Cc: James Landau <savegraduation@yahoo.com> Subject: [tlhIngan Hol] Carl Buck's alphasyllabary I was just browsing Fiat Lingua, the online conlanging academic journal, when I discovered the December 2024 article: a piece by Klingonist Carl Buck (a.k.a. Masako) that develops a rather-alien alphasyllabary for Klingon: https://fiatlingua.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/fl-00009F-00.pdf Check it out!
Experience suggests that it’s a very good idea to include sources for each word. There’s the legendary {‘I’} = “armpit”. I’ll spare you the story. In early days, I made a paper dictionary that listed sources, using actual dictionaries as inspiration. I called it the AKD (Annotated Klingon Dictionary). When I gave a copy of it to Okrand at the next qep’a', in his typically generous fashion, he was delighted, because he had not, as yet, made his own complete dictionary, instead having, according to him, not very well organized scraps of paper “scattered all around” (like poetic nostrils) with words on them. My dictionary was flawed, but more complete than most, and citing the sources for each word made it more maintainable, since errors could be tracked down and caught when necessary, unlike word lists like yours, which, since humans maintain it and it has thousands of entries, odds are, contain errors that cannot be traced back to the source. At the request of others, I started the New Words List on KLI’s Web site and maintained it for years, though my dedication to the task was flawed and I handed it over to others who have done admirable work… Though I see that it now claims that it was last updated in the middle of 2020, with a promise that it WILL be updated by July 2024… which seems to have been a statement of honest intent, but not fulfilled. I cannot fault anyone for a failure sufficiently identical to my own. I know exactly how much persistent work this requires. The boQwI’ app, available on both the Apple App Store and on the Android’s equivalent, is the most updated and annotated Klingon dictionary that I’m aware of. Once again, kudos for a job well done, and for dedication to a task so many benefit from. You can consult the credits on the app for the list of the many contributors. pItlh charghwI’ ‘utlh (ghaH, ghaH, -Daj)
On Jan 26, 2025, at 12:19 AM, James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> wrote:
Almost forgot to mention that Carl Buck/Masako was the one who started the Klingon-English dictionary up at https://www.frathwiki.com/Klingon/lexicon, a document I now maintain!
On Wednesday, January 22, 2025 at 06:11:38 PM PST, janSIy . <kenjutsuka@live.com> wrote:
He showed up on the KLI Discord server and received some compliments and some criticisms. He didn't like the criticisms and left very quickly.
From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2025 3:57 PM To: tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> Cc: James Landau <savegraduation@yahoo.com> Subject: [tlhIngan Hol] Carl Buck's alphasyllabary
I was just browsing Fiat Lingua, the online conlanging academic journal, when I discovered the December 2024 article: a piece by Klingonist Carl Buck (a.k.a. Masako) that develops a rather-alien alphasyllabary for Klingon:
https://fiatlingua.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/fl-00009F-00.pdf
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