thanks ! Actually I was wondering about whether the {tIng 'ev Sepmey} adequately expresses the "western" of the "western culture". ~ nIghma' On Nov 5, 2017 4:44 PM, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote: On 11/5/2017 7:38 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote: jagh yIbuStaH ! I meant "the western culture" ~ nIghma' On Nov 5, 2017 2:37 PM, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote: Is the following correct ? {tIng 'ev Sepmey meHghem} the western civilization ~ nIghma' *meHghem* refers to the arts, not to customs and society. The word you're looking for is *nugh* *society, group of people with shared culture.* -- SuStelhttp://trimboli.name _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org

On 5 November 2017 at 16:06, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:

thanks !

Actually I was wondering about whether the {tIng 'ev Sepmey} adequately expresses the "western" of the "western culture".

Maybe. We know only that {tIng 'ev} represents geographical west to Klingons. But on oblate spheroids like planets, what is "west" is a matter of convention. Furthermore, "Western" in this case is a label for something which is related to geography, but not identical to it. For example, typically, when speaking in English, "Western culture" encompasses the European-descended cultures of New Zealand and Australia, but excludes the indigenous cultures of the Americas. So whether or not a *Klingon* would understand {tIng 'ev Sepmey nugh} as what you mean when you say "Western culture" depends on how they were introduced to the term. -- De'vID