I would ask him: 1. what is the klingon word for spaghetti 2. what is the klingon word for pasta in general 3. do lurSa' and be'etor wear high heels ? and if yes, how do we call them ? the heels I mean.. ~ m. qunen'oS I want the entire marriam-webster in klingon
I would probably call spaghetti something like {tIr SIrghmey} by analogy with {tIr ngogh} but when I’m feeling silly I might call them {tera' tIr qaghqoq}. Pasta in general can probably be {tIr X} where X is the form factor of the pasta. Like lasange could be {tIr navmey} or {tIr volmey} or {tIr letbaQmey}, maybe even something like {tIr letbaQ Doj}. Penne could be something like {tIr 'ochHommey}. For heels, maybe {waq woch}?
On May 4, 2019, at 14:11, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
I would ask him:
1. what is the klingon word for spaghetti 2. what is the klingon word for pasta in general 3. do lurSa' and be'etor wear high heels ? and if yes, how do we call them ? the heels I mean..
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I was thinking of { tIr SIrghHom} -etto/-etti is one of the diminutive suffixes in Italian. {tera' tIr qaghqoq} is more apt for "vermicelli", a different kind of pasta :) (all right, they are thicker spaghetti). Also -elli is another diminutive... On the other hand I am not sure a Klingon would bother to make a distinction between all of the varieties of pasta/noodles. If Klingons were made aware of pasta when visiting Earth, they may simply use a transliteration, but who knows, maybe spaghetti were invented on {Qo'noS} really, and Italians simply copied them! On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 7:26 PM Daniel Dadap <daniel@dadap.net> wrote:
I would probably call spaghetti something like {tIr SIrghmey} by analogy with {tIr ngogh} but when I’m feeling silly I might call them {tera' tIr qaghqoq}.
Pasta in general can probably be {tIr X} where X is the form factor of the pasta. Like lasange could be {tIr navmey} or {tIr volmey} or {tIr letbaQmey}, maybe even something like {tIr letbaQ Doj}. Penne could be something like {tIr 'ochHommey}.
For heels, maybe {waq woch}?
On May 4, 2019, at 14:11, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
I would ask him:
1. what is the klingon word for spaghetti
2. what is the klingon word for pasta in general
3. do lurSa' and be'etor wear high heels ? and if yes, how do we call them ? the heels I mean..
~ m. qunen'oS
I want the entire marriam-webster in klingon
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luciano, pa'logh poHvam je, 'Italya' vIHo' 'ej vImuSHa' ! 'Italya' Soj 'Italya' be'pu' je vImuSHa'. 'ej 'Italya' *espresso* vIparHa' je. Do', Sum 'Italya', vaj wa' jaj Sepvam vISuch. 'e' Datul. luciano, always I loved and admired Italy ! I love its food, its women, and its coffee. Luckily, Italy is near, so one day hopefully I'll be able to visit. reH, QInmeylIj vIlaDtaHvIS, pItSa' *spaghetti* qa'vIn 'Italya' be'pu' je vIjal. always, while I'm reading your messages, I imagine pizza, spaghetti, coffee, and italian women. pa'logh, 'Italya' Suchpu' SoSwI', vaj vIghelta'; jIjatlh, pa' QaQ'a' pItSa' ? vaj jangpu' 'ej jatlhpu': bIjallaHbe'.. once, my mother went to Italy, and when I asked her, is their pizza good ? she said "you can't imagine.." vaj.. so.. Hochlogh taHjaj 'Italya' viva l'Italia ! ~ m. qunen'oS damn, do I now want a pizza
On Sat, May 04, 2019 at 10:11:33PM +0300, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
I would ask him:
1. what is the klingon word for spaghetti
2. what is the klingon word for pasta in general
Both of these terms are likely to be borrowed directly from Terran languages. Even most Terran languages already borrow these terms from Italian — why would Klingons come up with special terms for an alien food that they'd never seen before? I'd expect the borrowed terms to look something like {paSta} and {Supaghe'tIy}, possibly with some variation on where the epenthetic vowel in the first syllable of the second term ends up and on whether you get {'t}, {tt}, or just {t} for the "tt" in spaghetti (it's pronounced double in Italian, but single and flapped in English, so it might depend on who they learn the word from).
3. do lurSa' and be'etor wear high heels ? and if yes, how do we call them ? the heels I mean..
I can't speak for the characters, but why not just go with {va'nuch woch waq} or {va'nuch jen waq} for "high heeled shoe"? There might be a specific Klingon term for that particular garment if it's common enough in Klingon society, but that doesn't stop us from just using a short description today (works well enough in English...). - SapIr
On Sat, May 4, 2019, 21:11 mayqel qunen'oS, <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
I would ask him:
1. what is the klingon word for spaghetti
{nuch qagh}. 2. what is the klingon word for pasta in general
3. do lurSa' and be'etor wear high heels ? and if yes, how do we call them ? the heels I mean..
Why isn't this covered by {DaSpu'}? -- De'vID
De'vID:
{nuch qagh}.
Good idea, but I'm afraid if someone read this, without knowing in advance what we are talking about, he wouldn't understand. De'vID:
Why isn't this covered by {DaSpu'}? Hugh: I wondered that briefly, but {DaSpu'} are on the other side and face in the opposite direction.
My thoughts exactly. The problem isn't just to find a description; the problem is finding one which when heard or read, conveys the meaning. In the past, there have been many truly wonderful ideas; to name a few.. ghunchu'wI's {qul pugh} for "ashes". jeremy silver's {Somraw to'waQ} for "tendon" and {Hom to'waQ} for "ligament" lieven's {qulchoHbogh qImroq} for "autumn" and {tujchoHbogh qImroq} for "spring" The above are examples of "oh-my-kahless" excellent solutions, because they convey the meaning. So, this is what we need to be trying to find. ~ m. qunen'oS keep calm and study Ca'Non
On Sat, May 4, 2019, 22:53 Daniel Dadap, <daniel@dadap.net> wrote:
On May 4, 2019, at 15:36, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
Why isn't this covered by {DaSpu'}?
I wondered that briefly, but {DaSpu'} are on the other side and face in the opposite direction.
{DaSpu' yoy}. -- De'vID
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