'op ret jIjatlhta': tlhIngan Hol vIghojbe'chugh vaj jIleSQo'. DaH, jIjatlhqa': tlhIngan Hol naQ (pab mu'tay je) vIghojbe'chugh vaj jIleSQo'. po'wI' vImojbe'chugh vaj jIleSQo' ! 'ej capricorn jIHmo', jIlujbe'bej. tagha' tlhIngan Hol HuD'a' vItoSbej. mop qIj qunnoq Sent from my goat phone On 7 Aug 2016 2:10 p.m., "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote: 'ej DaH, ghojmeH mIw vIQubqa'ta'mo', jIwuqta' : tlhIngan Hol vIghItlhtaHvIS, not mu'tay vIleghqa'. not ! mu'mey vIqawmeH jIraD'eghnIS. mop qIj qunnoq Sent from my goat phone On 7 Aug 2016 2:04 p.m., "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
this is written without a dictionary, so if anything appears weird you know the reason.
mu'mey veb vIghItlhbe'taH, jInaD'egh vIneHlaw'mo'. vIghItlhtaH, teHbejmo' bIH.
Qapbej mIwvam -mIw vIDelta'bogh-. 'IHqu' !
cha'logh mu'tay vIlaDta', 'ej wejHa' mu' law' vIqawlaH.
tlhIngan Hol ghojlu' neHlu'chugh, vaj mu'tay ghojnISbej. yapbe' pab neH.
mu'tay ghojDI' -poHvetlh neH-, tlhIngan Dop 'IH leghlaH.
mop qIj qunnoq Sent from my goat phone
On 25 Jul 2016 12:05 p.m., "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
The human mind has an amazing capacity of understanding and processing new information, and it is a fact too that we all learn in different ways. However, when the mind encounters new information (in our case vocabulary), the following four points could be said in order to describe what will happen :
1. first it will remember the words which it considers important 2. then it will remember the words which for some reason it will find strange 3. then the words which are constantly revised 4. when it encounters a new word and forgets it, some time has to pass before a second revision of that word takes place, if that revision is to be successful. however that time must not be too long.
If someone wants to learn klingon, (or any language real or constructed), he has to learn the vocabulary. Learning the grammar, and relying on a dictionary just won't cut it (as americans would say..).
But here comes the question ; how does one proceed in order to learn the vocabulary ?
There are many ways..
Some people memorize one word at a day, others memorize 10 or 20, some try to learn it as they speak or write klingon.
But the problem is that all these methods, take too long. Depending on what someone qualifies as a separate word deemed worthy of a separate entry in a dictionary, klingon possesses 2000-3000 (give or take a few) words. If you proceed, by learning one word at a day you need 2000 days just to go through the vocabulary once, let alone revision.. If you learn 20 words a day, then again you need 100 - 150 days, revision excluded. And won't you miss a day ?
So, in order to get the job done, this is what you need to do :
Open your dictionary and each time read just a single letter. For example start with the letter "A". Start reading without trying to memorize. You're reading : ".. this word means that, the next word means this, the word after is whatever..".
The important thing is not to stress yourself, or fall into the trap of trying to "actively memorize". You just breeze through the word list of a specific letter (in our example the letter A), and while reading you must be trying to stay relaxed. Don't force yourself to memorize, and don't pause to ask in your mind "did I learn that previous entry ?".
Now, when you finish letter A you will see :
1. the whole process was easy 2. it took only 15-20 minutes 3. your mind learned some words which for you are important 4. your mind learned additional words which you found strange for whatever reason. 5. words you were wondering about from the previous revision, now became clearer 6. and although you didn't realize that you actually learned something new, if you try and write, you'll notice that suddenly words crop up in your mind out of nowhere.
The beauty of this method is the following :
1. Even for a letter which has many entries, it doesn't take more than 15-20 minutes 2. It is easy ; you don't even work up a headache 3. It can be repeated twice a day
.. and most importantly :
4. It goes through the entire vocabulary in a matter of 10 days. Why 10 days ? Because some letters have very few entries, thus being able to read 2, or more of them at a time. (each "time" considered as a period of 15-20 minutes).
With this method, in a month someone is able to process the entire vocabulary 2-3 times, which is way faster than any other learning method (of the ones we talked about earlier).
So, finally, someone will ask : How long would it take for someone to learn ?
Because we're all different, there's no way of accurately predicting ; but from personal experience, I will say that after 2-3 months you'll be able to write in klingon, without needing to be constantly reaching for the dictionary.
Is there a catch (as americans say..) to all this ?
Yes there is.. It is boring as hell, and the more words you learn, the more difficult it becomes to overcome the boredom of sitting down and going through them again. Also, for this method to work, you need to be writing/using klingon daily, for your mind to *feel*, that the words it processes are indeed important.
But as with everything in life, it all comes down to a simple question :
How bad do you want it ?
mop Hurgh
Over the time, I have written many "hints and tips", which I used in order to learn ; however the "vocabulary learning method" is by far the best. And in order to make it complete, I need to add these details : Once you have begun learning the vocabulary, it is crucial that the ONLY time of day you will allow yourself to learn/revise new words, must be while you're performing this method. At no circumstance must you fall in the trap -while writing- to look up a word. Why ? Because you need to force your mind to cough up the necessary words when needed ; you need to get used to, that while you're studying the letter/letters of the day it is your only chance to learn so that you'll be able to write. Now, lets say that while you're writting, you don't remember a word. It doesn't matter ; Write the word which comes to mind even if you're almost certain it is wrong. The trick is simple : When the time comes to read at the daily revision that word -the word which you forgot-, then because you will have been wandering "was I right or wrong?", at that time that word will be burnt into your mind. As americans say "it works like a charm". mop qIj qunnoq On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 2:19 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
'op ret jIjatlhta':
tlhIngan Hol vIghojbe'chugh vaj jIleSQo'.
DaH, jIjatlhqa': tlhIngan Hol naQ (pab mu'tay je) vIghojbe'chugh vaj jIleSQo'.
po'wI' vImojbe'chugh vaj jIleSQo' !
'ej capricorn jIHmo', jIlujbe'bej. tagha' tlhIngan Hol HuD'a' vItoSbej.
mop qIj qunnoq Sent from my goat phone
On 7 Aug 2016 2:10 p.m., "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
'ej DaH, ghojmeH mIw vIQubqa'ta'mo', jIwuqta' :
tlhIngan Hol vIghItlhtaHvIS, not mu'tay vIleghqa'. not !
mu'mey vIqawmeH jIraD'eghnIS.
mop qIj qunnoq Sent from my goat phone
On 7 Aug 2016 2:04 p.m., "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
this is written without a dictionary, so if anything appears weird you know the reason.
mu'mey veb vIghItlhbe'taH, jInaD'egh vIneHlaw'mo'. vIghItlhtaH, teHbejmo' bIH.
Qapbej mIwvam -mIw vIDelta'bogh-. 'IHqu' !
cha'logh mu'tay vIlaDta', 'ej wejHa' mu' law' vIqawlaH.
tlhIngan Hol ghojlu' neHlu'chugh, vaj mu'tay ghojnISbej. yapbe' pab neH.
mu'tay ghojDI' -poHvetlh neH-, tlhIngan Dop 'IH leghlaH.
mop qIj qunnoq Sent from my goat phone
On 25 Jul 2016 12:05 p.m., "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
The human mind has an amazing capacity of understanding and processing new information, and it is a fact too that we all learn in different ways. However, when the mind encounters new information (in our case vocabulary), the following four points could be said in order to describe what will happen :
1. first it will remember the words which it considers important 2. then it will remember the words which for some reason it will find strange 3. then the words which are constantly revised 4. when it encounters a new word and forgets it, some time has to pass before a second revision of that word takes place, if that revision is to be successful. however that time must not be too long.
If someone wants to learn klingon, (or any language real or constructed), he has to learn the vocabulary. Learning the grammar, and relying on a dictionary just won't cut it (as americans would say..).
But here comes the question ; how does one proceed in order to learn the vocabulary ?
There are many ways..
Some people memorize one word at a day, others memorize 10 or 20, some try to learn it as they speak or write klingon.
But the problem is that all these methods, take too long. Depending on what someone qualifies as a separate word deemed worthy of a separate entry in a dictionary, klingon possesses 2000-3000 (give or take a few) words. If you proceed, by learning one word at a day you need 2000 days just to go through the vocabulary once, let alone revision.. If you learn 20 words a day, then again you need 100 - 150 days, revision excluded. And won't you miss a day ?
So, in order to get the job done, this is what you need to do :
Open your dictionary and each time read just a single letter. For example start with the letter "A". Start reading without trying to memorize. You're reading : ".. this word means that, the next word means this, the word after is whatever..".
The important thing is not to stress yourself, or fall into the trap of trying to "actively memorize". You just breeze through the word list of a specific letter (in our example the letter A), and while reading you must be trying to stay relaxed. Don't force yourself to memorize, and don't pause to ask in your mind "did I learn that previous entry ?".
Now, when you finish letter A you will see :
1. the whole process was easy 2. it took only 15-20 minutes 3. your mind learned some words which for you are important 4. your mind learned additional words which you found strange for whatever reason. 5. words you were wondering about from the previous revision, now became clearer 6. and although you didn't realize that you actually learned something new, if you try and write, you'll notice that suddenly words crop up in your mind out of nowhere.
The beauty of this method is the following :
1. Even for a letter which has many entries, it doesn't take more than 15-20 minutes 2. It is easy ; you don't even work up a headache 3. It can be repeated twice a day
.. and most importantly :
4. It goes through the entire vocabulary in a matter of 10 days. Why 10 days ? Because some letters have very few entries, thus being able to read 2, or more of them at a time. (each "time" considered as a period of 15-20 minutes).
With this method, in a month someone is able to process the entire vocabulary 2-3 times, which is way faster than any other learning method (of the ones we talked about earlier).
So, finally, someone will ask : How long would it take for someone to learn ?
Because we're all different, there's no way of accurately predicting ; but from personal experience, I will say that after 2-3 months you'll be able to write in klingon, without needing to be constantly reaching for the dictionary.
Is there a catch (as americans say..) to all this ?
Yes there is.. It is boring as hell, and the more words you learn, the more difficult it becomes to overcome the boredom of sitting down and going through them again. Also, for this method to work, you need to be writing/using klingon daily, for your mind to *feel*, that the words it processes are indeed important.
But as with everything in life, it all comes down to a simple question :
How bad do you want it ?
mop Hurgh
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