Is the following correct ? {tlhIHchuqvaD SunovchoH} you will become strangers to each other ~ nIghma'
And pronouns only take verb suffixes when they’re part of “to be” sentences. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name From: David Holt Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:21 PM To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] pronouns and {-chuq} jatlh mayqel qunenoS:
Is the following correct ? {tlhIHchuqvaD SunovchoH} you will become strangers to each other
If you are using tlhIH as a verb it cannot take -vaD and if you are using it as a pronoun, then it cannot take -chuq.
And pronouns only take verb suffixes when they’re part of “to be” sentences. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name From: David Holt Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:21 PM To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] pronouns and {-chuq} jatlh mayqel qunenoS:
Is the following correct ? {tlhIHchuqvaD SunovchoH} you will become strangers to each other
If you are using tlhIH as a verb it cannot take -vaD and if you are using it as a pronoun, then it cannot take -chuq.
If I use it only as a verb can I write {tlhIHchuq SunovchoH} ? ~ nIghma' On Oct 25, 2017 9:21 PM, "David Holt" <kenjutsuka@live.com> wrote:
jatlh mayqel qunenoS:
Is the following correct ? {tlhIHchuqvaD SunovchoH} you will become strangers to each other
If you are using tlhIH as a verb it cannot take -vaD and if you are using it as a pronoun, then it cannot take -chuq.
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jatlh mayqel qunenoS:
If I use it only as a verb can I write {tlhIHchuq SunovchoH} ?
No. I can't imagine what a type 1 verb suffix on a pronoun as "to be" might mean. "You are each other"? Even if so, how would it relate to the second sentence? "You are each other you begin to be foreigners." Why not, {SuSovchuqchoH}?
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jatlh mayqel qunenoS:
If I use it only as a verb can I write {tlhIHchuq SunovchoH} ?
No. I can't imagine what a type 1 verb suffix on a pronoun as "to be" might mean. "You are each other"? Even if so, how would it relate to the second sentence? "You are each other you begin to be foreigners." Why not, {SuSovchuqchoH}?
HIvqa' veqlargh! Obviously I meant, {SuSovbe'chuqchoH}.
The suffixes -'egh (reflexive) and -chuq (reciprocal) are used with transitive verbs -- verbs which take an object -- in effect acting as the object: -'egh self and -chuq each other, one another. Okrand on -'egh: (TKD p.35): This suffix is used to indicate that the action described by the verb affects the performer of the action, the subject. It is translated by English self. When this suffix is used, the prefix set indicating 'no object' must also be used: jIqIp'egh I hit myself, bIqIp'egh you hit yourself, qIp'egh he/she hits himself/herself. It is also possible to use this suffix with imperative verbs. As with non-imperatives, the prefix indicating "no object" must be used: yIja''egh tell yourself! peja''egh tell yourselves!" Okrand on -chuq: (TKD p.36): This suffix is used only with plural subjects. It is translated each other or one another. The prefix set indicating "no object" is also used when this suffix is used: maqIpchuq we hit each other, SuqIpchuq you (plural) hit each other, qIpchuq they hit each other, peqIpchuq hit each other! --Voragh From: David Holt jatlh mayqel qunenoS:
If I use it only as a verb can I write {tlhIHchuq SunovchoH} ?
No. I can't imagine what a type 1 verb suffix on a pronoun as "to be" might mean. "You are each other"? Even if so, how would it relate to the second sentence? "You are each other you begin to be foreigners." Why not, {SuSovchuqchoH}?
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