Alternate phrasing, although maybe with a difference in meaning:* nuv'e' naj QIb* On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 12:29 PM mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:

Or, alternatively, in order to avoid the "using {-ghaH} vs using {-oH} problem", we could say:

rap nuv, QIb Suchtuv je man and the dream of a shadow are the same

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ghunchu'wI':

Plato DIS lut yIqel. DI'ruj Sovbe' nuv. QIbmey neH Sov. maq Plato paQDI'norgh: qo' tlhamDaq jul nIv law' Hoch nIv puS ' ej QIb QIv law' Hoch QIv puS. vaj tlhamDaq QIvqu' QIb Suchtuv'e'.

bIlugh! QIn wa'DIch vIqontaHvIS, plato nger vIqelpu'be'. muyajmoHpu' mu'meylIj. qatlho'. nIqolay Q:

Alternate phrasing, although maybe with a difference in meaning: nuv'e' naj QIb

Interesting suggestion. I also thought of {QIb Suchtuv rurchu' nuv}, and {rurchuqchu' nuv, QIb Suchtuv je}. -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ