As I recently brought up in a Facebook discussion of words to ask from Okrand, I'd like clarification on this and a few other textile-related words. Although weaving and knitting are both techniques for creating fabric, they use very different technologies, methods, and materials. If Hut'Inmey tIq is indeed 'the sticks used when doing whatever this *weaving* technique is,' then Hut'Inmey tIq are not "*knitting* needles," especially given that there are indeed different sorts of sticks (shed sticks, heddle sticks) used in weaving. My interpretation is that this is probably a case of Okrand (and Maltz) not knowing the real-world distinctions, and that's fine. As a textile maker and enthusiast, I'm just asking for clarification! If it's a matter of ~Klingons use the same word for both things~, I can deal with that fiction. In that case what I'm after is words for those mysterious "other types of weaving," and to know what a Klingon might call some of the other tools of textile-making! (And, again, exactly what kind of sticks are Hut'Inmey tIq!) And, just thinking aloud: Is a meSwI' a crochet hook? A weaver? A sewing needle? A professional hair braider? A loom? Knitting needles? *Sewing* needles? Detangler spray? How metaphorically do Klingons use meS? (Does one untie the knot of a complicated relationship?) Recently I learned that "rhapsode," (the term for certain historical Greek storytellers) means something like "song-stitcher," which I think is cool... so, <bommey meSwI'pu'>? Love it. (Though maybe we also need a word for 'to stitch, to sew'!) -- Socialist Alternative <http://www.socialistalternative.org/> Klingon Language Institute <http://www.kli.org/> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:

Klingon word: Hut'Inmey tIq Part of speech: noun Definition: sticks used for weaving, "knitting needles" Source: _______________________________________________

(Okrand to De'vID, 10/2014): [Maltz] said he does not knit and, in fact, wasn't quite sure what knitting was. I explained. He said there is a word perhaps best translated as "weave" and that he has heard of using sticks when doing a certain kind of weaving, but he didn't know a name for that other than "weaving". (There are apparently other types of weaving also.) The word for weave (verb) is {nIq}. For the sticks used when doing whatever this weaving technique is, he's only heard {Hut'Inmey tIq}.

(Lieven, 11/12/2014): After giving us the word for knitting, Maltz just revealed another useful and related word: it's {meS} and means knot, both as noun and verb. The object of the verb is the thing you use to make a knot, e.g. {tlhegh vImeS} - "I make a knot in the rope". To loosen the knot, simply say {meSHa'}.

SEE ALSO: Hut'In nail (n) Hut'In vIl screw (n)

-- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons

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Am 12.04.2018 um 11:18 schrieb kechpaja:

Wait... is {Hut'In} a pun on the band "Nine Inch Nails"?

I'm not sure if Okrand has this confirmed, but indeed - it's so obvious, it cannot be a coincidence. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/StarTrekDiscovery