{bam} is defined as "face, have the prospect of having to deal with". {DIgh}, on the other hand, is defined as "undertake, deal with". I can't understand what's the actual difference between them. Do we use {bam} when we will face something unpleasant in the future, and {DIgh} when we deal with something in the here-and-now, regardless if it is pleasant or not ? ~ mayqel qunen'oS
On 3/3/2020 9:10 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
{bam} is defined as "face, have the prospect of having to deal with".
{DIgh}, on the other hand, is defined as "undertake, deal with".
I can't understand what's the actual difference between them.
Do we use {bam} when we will face something unpleasant in the future, and {DIgh} when we deal with something in the here-and-now, regardless if it is pleasant or not ?
That's pretty much it. *bam* doesn't imply unpleasantness, though it'll often be used of something unpleasant (otherwise why mention facing it?). You might say *noH wIbam. ngay' vIchav!* /We face a war. I will achieve glory!/ -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
jIH:
Do we use {bam} when we will face something unpleasant in the future SuStel: You might say noH wIbam. ngay' vIchav! > We face a war. I will achieve glory!
In this example that you wrote, do you mean it as "we face a war (which hasn't started yet)" or "we face a war (which has already started)" ? I'm wondering whether we could use {bam} not only for something which will happen in future, but also for something which has already begun. ~ mayqel qunen'oS
On 3/3/2020 10:10 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
jIH:
Do we use {bam} when we will face something unpleasant in the future SuStel: You might say noH wIbam. ngay' vIchav! > We face a war. I will achieve glory!
In this example that you wrote, do you mean it as "we face a war (which hasn't started yet)" or "we face a war (which has already started)" ?
I'm wondering whether we could use {bam} not only for something which will happen in future, but also for something which has already begun.
*bam* is /have the prospect of having to deal with./ It's just a prospect. You're not already dealing with it. If you say *noH bam,* you're not saying whether the war has already begun or not. If a war has already begun, you might be faced with the prospect of fighting in it (but you haven't already joined in). If a war has not yet begun but looms, you might be faced with the prospect of fighting when it starts. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
Am 03.03.2020 um 15:10 schrieb mayqel qunen'oS:
Do we use {bam} when we will face something unpleasant in the future, and {DIgh} when we deal with something in the here-and-now, regardless if it is pleasant or not ?
Both words are not related to the time of the event, nor the pleasentness of it. Don't write it down, but you make keep in mind that {DIgh} could be translated as "do", and {bam} conveys the notion of something coming, something you are going to experience. But if you insist on having a time order with these words, you might say that first {bam} something before you {DIgh} it. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/Word/DIgh
lieven:
But if you insist on having a time order with these words, you might say that first {bam} something before you {DIgh} it.
ok, thanks ! Now that I think again about this, I realize that perhaps it were the english definitions of these words, which confused me.. Anyways, luckily, now I understand. ~ mayqel qunen'oS
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