Re: [tlhIngan Hol] tlhIngan-Hol Digest, Vol 87, Issue 9
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 13:05:32 +0200 From: "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org Cc: "tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org>, James > Landau <savegraduation@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qep'a' wejmaHDIch mu' chu' Message-ID: <CA+7zAmOtwsSZbQO2fk8U3ejohv3nQ-ezn1K-7eoevvgknRehzw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 9:13?AM James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol < tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> wrote:
Good to see we finally have the major countries of Earth covered. I see the word for Ethiopia has been put up at the wiki, but I'd like to learn the names of the other countries we had on our chabal tetlh (Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Palestine, Taiwan).
{'InDoneSya'}, {'I'ran}, {paqIStan}, and {vIlaStIn} are all there. Taiwan is missing, though.
Oh, OK. I assume we finally got our word for Mexico?
Oh yes, and *'IQDoy* (clich?, trope, stereotype).>>
I think you've mixed up two things. {'IQDoy'} is "parody, caricature" ("sad" + "tired" = "satire")
{HeqqIv} is "clich?, trope, stereotype" ("hackneyed" {Heq} + {qIv} "knee")
Good ones! As you see, I noticed that error after I posted the message. Meanwhile, I've figured out several more puns: ghuD (fellow-X, be in common, be co-X): Backwards, this sounds like "drug/droog" -- the Russian (and Nadsat) word for friend. moqlam (feldspar): Craig Feldspar was a character on Malcolm in the Middle. (Another twenty-first century TV reference!) naq (be iridescent): Nacre. qaytap (bill, act): Backwards, this is paty aq - sounds like "PATRIOT Act". Do all of you think this is it? qIrbI' (hygiene): Backwards: *'Ib rIq*. Or, "break-through the bathtub!" Qajnav (diaper): This is the pun that had me laughing out loud the most. I'm not going to spoil it for you right away, so just say it backwards, and then translate it into English, using the "ends" definition of *van*. renyarDaq (ESP): Backwards, *renyar* becomes *rayner*. Perhaps a blend of J. B. "Rhine" and "Zener" cards? romton (bracket, corbel): "Corbel" comes from a Latin word for raven, and backwards, *romton* is *not mor* = nevermore. Same basic idea as *notqa'*! ro'qa' (tonsil): This is the most sneakily clever of the puns I've cracked so far. *ro'qa'* sounds like Almond "Roca", of course . . . remember that in German, "almond" and "tonsil" are both "Mandel". Sawqe' (nugget, chunk, clump): Perhaps a reference to a clump of Mary Kay (Ash) cream or mascara?
On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 9:13?AM James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol wrote:
Meanwhile, I've figured out several more puns: ghuD (fellow-X, be in common, be co-X): Backwards, this sounds like "drug/droog" -- the Russian (and Nadsat) word for friend.
I agree that Okrand's puns are sometimes very far-fetched, but in this case, don't you think it's the much more obvious from the song? "For he's a jolly ghuD fellow..." Might be a coincidence of course. Lieven L. Litaer. http://klingon.wiki
On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 3:07 AM James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol < tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> wrote:
Oh, OK. I assume we finally got our word for Mexico?
It's {me'HIyqo}.
ghuD (fellow-X, be in common, be co-X): Backwards, this sounds like "drug/droog" -- the Russian (and Nadsat) word for friend.
I agree with Lieven that this is probably a reference to "He's a jolly good fellow", or possibly the film Goodfellas.
qaytap (bill, act): Backwards, this is paty aq - sounds like "PATRIOT Act". Do all of you think this is it?
The {y} seems misplaced to me.
renyarDaq (ESP): Backwards, *renyar* becomes *rayner*. Perhaps a blend of J. B. "Rhine" and "Zener" cards?
This is likely a reference to Noreen Renier, an alleged psychic, just like {relleghDaq} is a reference to Uri Geller. -- De'vID
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