Hello, At the Facebook group, a side part of a discussion focussed on Michael Dorn's attitude towards the Klingon language. It seems common knowledge that he doesn't take it seriously, but there are no clear sources or evidences. I would like to write a few lines on that topic in the Klingon Language Wiki, but would like to have reliable sources for what is said. So – does anyone know of a quote or other source where Dorn actually said this? -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/MichaelDorn
On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 at 10:33, Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
Hello,
At the Facebook group, a side part of a discussion focussed on Michael Dorn's attitude towards the Klingon language. It seems common knowledge that he doesn't take it seriously, but there are no clear sources or evidences.
I would like to write a few lines on that topic in the Klingon Language Wiki, but would like to have reliable sources for what is said.
So – does anyone know of a quote or other source where Dorn actually said this?
He gave an interview about this in the documentary (which is now out of production and difficult to obtain) called "Earthlings: Ugly Bags of Mostly Water". -- De'vID
I don't recall direct quotes, but he was interviewed in the documentary "Earthlings: Ugly Bags of Mostly Water" and was pretty clear about his opinions. It is likely that someone on this list has a copy. be''etlh On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 4:32 AM Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
Hello,
At the Facebook group, a side part of a discussion focussed on Michael Dorn's attitude towards the Klingon language. It seems common knowledge that he doesn't take it seriously, but there are no clear sources or evidences.
I would like to write a few lines on that topic in the Klingon Language Wiki, but would like to have reliable sources for what is said.
So – does anyone know of a quote or other source where Dorn actually said this?
-- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/MichaelDorn _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
Although it's always good to go straight to the source for context and verification, some of the quotes were noted in a Qo'noS QonoS article: https://www.kli.org/resources/qonos-qonos/qq0406/ //loghaD ________________________________ From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of Elizabeth Faber <elizabeth.lawrence08@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 11:35:43 AM To: tlhInganHol discussion group Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Michael Dorn I don't recall direct quotes, but he was interviewed in the documentary "Earthlings: Ugly Bags of Mostly Water" and was pretty clear about his opinions. It is likely that someone on this list has a copy. be''etlh On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 4:32 AM Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de<mailto:levinius@gmx.de>> wrote: Hello, At the Facebook group, a side part of a discussion focussed on Michael Dorn's attitude towards the Klingon language. It seems common knowledge that he doesn't take it seriously, but there are no clear sources or evidences. I would like to write a few lines on that topic in the Klingon Language Wiki, but would like to have reliable sources for what is said. So – does anyone know of a quote or other source where Dorn actually said this? -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/MichaelDorn _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org> http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
I only found one comment by Dorn in my notes: The deluxe aluminum-and-leather sash he wore in “Generations” gave Michael Dorn fits: "It's freakin' heavy and can wreak havoc with your body posture," Dorn recalls. "It gave me back problems." [TV Guide [June 24, 2006]. Also look for Dorn’s various comments on costumes, teeth, make-up, using the bat’leth, etc. – all of which may have affected his attitude to the character and the language over the years. Voragh __________________________________________________________________________ From: Elizabeth Faber <elizabeth.lawrence08@gmail.com<mailto:elizabeth.lawrence08@gmail.com>> I don't recall direct quotes, but he was interviewed in the documentary "Earthlings: Ugly Bags of Mostly Water" and was pretty clear about his opinions. It is likely that someone on this list has a copy. On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 4:32 AM Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de<mailto:levinius@gmx.de>> wrote: At the Facebook group, a side part of a discussion focussed on Michael Dorn's attitude towards the Klingon language. It seems common knowledge that he doesn't take it seriously, but there are no clear sources or evidences. I would like to write a few lines on that topic in the Klingon Language Wiki, but would like to have reliable sources for what is said. So – does anyone know of a quote or other source where Dorn actually said this?
tamghay natlhlu'chu’pu’bogh qa’lu'meH tlhInganna’ ‘ar poQlu'? pagh. Hurghchu’taHghach HajQo’ tlhInganna’. charghwI’ ‘utlh (ghaH, ghaH, -Daj)
On Apr 26, 2021, at 10:36 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
I only found one comment by Dorn in my notes:
The deluxe aluminum-and-leather sash he wore in “Generations” gave Michael Dorn fits: "It's freakin' heavy and can wreak havoc with your body posture," Dorn recalls. "It gave me back problems." [TV Guide [June 24, 2006].
Also look for Dorn’s various comments on costumes, teeth, make-up, using the bat’leth, etc. – all of which may have affected his attitude to the character and the language over the years.
Voragh
__________________________________________________________________________ From: Elizabeth Faber <elizabeth.lawrence08@gmail.com <mailto:elizabeth.lawrence08@gmail.com>>
I don't recall direct quotes, but he was interviewed in the documentary "Earthlings: Ugly Bags of Mostly Water" and was pretty clear about his opinions. It is likely that someone on this list has a copy.
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 4:32 AM Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de <mailto:levinius@gmx.de>> wrote: At the Facebook group, a side part of a discussion focussed on Michael Dorn's attitude towards the Klingon language. It seems common knowledge that he doesn't take it seriously, but there are no clear sources or evidences.
I would like to write a few lines on that topic in the Klingon Language Wiki, but would like to have reliable sources for what is said.
So – does anyone know of a quote or other source where Dorn actually said this?
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Will Martin