I believe it was some months ago, I had talked about the problem of remembering the order of the verb suffixes. Then I wrote, that I had the difficulty of remembering their order. In order to solve this problem, I followed this method : I memorized the suffixes of each type. And every day, I recited the entire order in mind. The important thing here, is while reciting the suffix list in your mind, to *feel* as you go from type 1 to type 9, some kind of "cascade". I can't quite put it in words, but you must *feel* as if you're going "down a ladder" (or up a ladder), so as your mind to get the feeling of what comes first, what follows and what comes last. After doing this for a few months, I can't say that always - while I write - the correct order of suffixes automatically appears in my mind, but the good thing is that even if I have to "actively" think for it, it takes just a couple of seconds. For the time being, its the best solution I have been able to find for this problem. mayqel
This makes a lot of sense to me! I can't say I've exactly done the exercise that you've done, but I am definitely at a point now (after a few years of speaking) that it comes down to feeling. Yes, I've memorized (and since forgotten) the exact order a few times but the *feeling* of it is where fluency lies! -- Socialist Alternative <http://www.socialistalternative.org/> Klingon Language Institute <http://www.kli.org/> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:58 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
I believe it was some months ago, I had talked about the problem of remembering the order of the verb suffixes.
Then I wrote, that I had the difficulty of remembering their order.
In order to solve this problem, I followed this method :
I memorized the suffixes of each type. And every day, I recited the entire order in mind. The important thing here, is while reciting the suffix list in your mind, to *feel* as you go from type 1 to type 9, some kind of "cascade".
I can't quite put it in words, but you must *feel* as if you're going "down a ladder" (or up a ladder), so as your mind to get the feeling of what comes first, what follows and what comes last.
After doing this for a few months, I can't say that always - while I write - the correct order of suffixes automatically appears in my mind, but the good thing is that even if I have to "actively" think for it, it takes just a couple of seconds.
For the time being, its the best solution I have been able to find for this problem.
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What if you just memorize real examples of verbs with multiple suffixes? Then after a while of using those, other orders will seem/feel odd/off. lay'tel SIvten On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:58 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
I believe it was some months ago, I had talked about the problem of remembering the order of the verb suffixes.
Then I wrote, that I had the difficulty of remembering their order.
In order to solve this problem, I followed this method :
I memorized the suffixes of each type. And every day, I recited the entire order in mind. The important thing here, is while reciting the suffix list in your mind, to *feel* as you go from type 1 to type 9, some kind of "cascade".
I can't quite put it in words, but you must *feel* as if you're going "down a ladder" (or up a ladder), so as your mind to get the feeling of what comes first, what follows and what comes last.
After doing this for a few months, I can't say that always - while I write - the correct order of suffixes automatically appears in my mind, but the good thing is that even if I have to "actively" think for it, it takes just a couple of seconds.
For the time being, its the best solution I have been able to find for this problem.
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lay'tel SIvten:
What if you just memorize real examples of verbs with multiple suffixes? Then after a while of using those, other orders will seem/feel odd/off.
qechvetlh vIjalbe'.. ; vInID. I hadn't thought of this idea.. I'll give it a try. mIv Hurgh On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:31 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
What if you just memorize real examples of verbs with multiple suffixes? Then after a while of using those, other orders will seem/feel odd/off.
lay'tel SIvten
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:58 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
I believe it was some months ago, I had talked about the problem of remembering the order of the verb suffixes.
Then I wrote, that I had the difficulty of remembering their order.
In order to solve this problem, I followed this method :
I memorized the suffixes of each type. And every day, I recited the entire order in mind. The important thing here, is while reciting the suffix list in your mind, to *feel* as you go from type 1 to type 9, some kind of "cascade".
I can't quite put it in words, but you must *feel* as if you're going "down a ladder" (or up a ladder), so as your mind to get the feeling of what comes first, what follows and what comes last.
After doing this for a few months, I can't say that always - while I write - the correct order of suffixes automatically appears in my mind, but the good thing is that even if I have to "actively" think for it, it takes just a couple of seconds.
For the time being, its the best solution I have been able to find for this problem.
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Am 01.07.2016 um 08:20 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:
qechvetlh vIjalbe'.. ; vInID. I hadn't thought of this idea.. I'll give it a try.
Yes, that's really the best way to remember, using real examples. Each time you open a door, say {lojmIt vIpoSnISmoH} - and soon it's really strange to hear the incorrect "poSmoHnIS" (it's even a pain for me to write it) -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net
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