Klingon Word of the Day: DI'ruj velqa' nIqHom
Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, June 05, 2018 Klingon word: DI'ruj velqa' nIqHom Part of speech: noun Definition: virtual reality software Source: qep'a' 23 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh@kli.org).
Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, June 05, 2018 Klingon word: DI'ruj velqa' nIqHom Part of speech: noun Definition: virtual reality software Source: qep'a' 23 [2016] _______________________________________________ DI'ruj reality (n) (qep'a' 2016) velqa' replica (n) (MKE) nIqHom software (n) (qep'a' 2016) AFAIK never used in a sentence. -- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
I'm curious to know how to use {DI'ruj} in a sentence. Can we use it to make existential statements? For instance, would something like {DI'rujDaq 'IDnar tu'be'lu'} be interpreted in the sense of "Magic doesn't exist/is fictional"? Is {DI'ruj} a location, can it even take a {-Daq}? Does {'IDnar ngaSbe' DI'ruj} work for the same idea? On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, June 05, 2018
Klingon word: DI'ruj velqa' nIqHom Part of speech: noun Definition: virtual reality software Source: qep'a' 23 [2016] _______________________________________________
DI'ruj reality (n) (qep'a' 2016) velqa' replica (n) (MKE) nIqHom software (n) (qep'a' 2016)
AFAIK never used in a sentence.
-- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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On 6/6/2018 11:51 AM, nIqolay Q wrote:
I'm curious to know how to use {DI'ruj} in a sentence. Can we use it to make existential statements? For instance, would something like {DI'rujDaq 'IDnar tu'be'lu'} be interpreted in the sense of "Magic doesn't exist/is fictional"? Is {DI'ruj} a location, can it even take a {-Daq}? Does {'IDnar ngaSbe' DI'ruj} work for the same idea?
I wouldn't automatically assume *DI'rujDaq* makes any sense, unless you're talking about a science-fiction story in which characters are hopping between realities. Your second version is safer for that reason. Such a word depends on a conceptual metaphor of "reality is a place," which we don't know Klingons share. Maybe if there are hints of this particular conceptual metaphor in canon we could be more certain of it. I can't think of any offhand. Klingons might conceptually consider reality to be a state rather than a place, for instance. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
On 6/6/2018 12:05 PM, SuStel wrote:
On 6/6/2018 11:51 AM, nIqolay Q wrote:
I'm curious to know how to use {DI'ruj} in a sentence. Can we use it to make existential statements? For instance, would something like {DI'rujDaq 'IDnar tu'be'lu'} be interpreted in the sense of "Magic doesn't exist/is fictional"? Is {DI'ruj} a location, can it even take a {-Daq}? Does {'IDnar ngaSbe' DI'ruj} work for the same idea?
I wouldn't automatically assume *DI'rujDaq* makes any sense, unless you're talking about a science-fiction story in which characters are hopping between realities. Your second version is safer for that reason.
Such a word depends on a conceptual metaphor of "reality is a place," which we don't know Klingons share. Maybe if there are hints of this particular conceptual metaphor in canon we could be more certain of it. I can't think of any offhand. Klingons might conceptually consider reality to be a state rather than a place, for instance.
It occurs to me that even your second sentence construes reality as a place that can "contain" things. How about these instead: *'IDnar chaw'be' DI'ruj DI'rujmo' qItbe' 'IDnar* -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
DI'ruj 'oH 'IDnar'e'! :D I don't think {DI'ruj} is a location word like {bIng} or {Dung}, but it could be used as a location just as {Duj} or {ghop} could be. DI'ruj velqa' vI'elDI' pIj DI'ruj vIlIj. rut DI'ruj vIcheghDI' loQ jImIS. DI'ruj velqa'Daq jIHtaHvIS motlh vItIv 'ach rut jIropchoH. qurgh On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:51 AM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm curious to know how to use {DI'ruj} in a sentence. Can we use it to make existential statements? For instance, would something like {DI'rujDaq 'IDnar tu'be'lu'} be interpreted in the sense of "Magic doesn't exist/is fictional"? Is {DI'ruj} a location, can it even take a {-Daq}? Does {'IDnar ngaSbe' DI'ruj} work for the same idea?
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, June 05, 2018
Klingon word: DI'ruj velqa' nIqHom Part of speech: noun Definition: virtual reality software Source: qep'a' 23 [2016] _______________________________________________
DI'ruj reality (n) (qep'a' 2016) velqa' replica (n) (MKE) nIqHom software (n) (qep'a' 2016)
AFAIK never used in a sentence.
-- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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{DI’ruj} could be an abstract concept like the time words {tuch} “future, the future (as a whole)”, {pa'logh} “past, the past (as a whole)” or {DaHjaj} “today” (which also appears in a NOUN + NOUN phrase like {DaHjaj gheD} "catch of the day" (lit. "today's prey"). Although nouns, I wouldn’t put {-Daq} on any of them. --Voragh From: qurgh lungqIj DI'ruj 'oH 'IDnar'e'! :D I don't think {DI'ruj} is a location word like {bIng} or {Dung}, but it could be used as a location just as {Duj} or {ghop} could be. On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:51 AM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com<mailto:niqolay0@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm curious to know how to use {DI'ruj} in a sentence. Can we use it to make existential statements? For instance, would something like {DI'rujDaq 'IDnar tu'be'lu'} be interpreted in the sense of "Magic doesn't exist/is fictional"? Is {DI'ruj} a location, can it even take a {-Daq}? Does {'IDnar ngaSbe' DI'ruj} work for the same idea? On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Voragh wrote: Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, June 05, 2018 Klingon word: DI'ruj velqa' nIqHom Part of speech: noun Definition: virtual reality software Source: qep'a' 23 [2016] _______________________________________________ DI'ruj reality (n) (qep'a' 2016) velqa' replica (n) (MKE) nIqHom software (n) (qep'a' 2016) AFAIK never used in a sentence. -- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
It could be, but I don't believe it is. I don't remember specifically what was discussed back then, but I never got the sense that it was an abstract concept like the time words. Maybe someone with a better memory than I will remember what was said when we got the words. qurgh On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
{DI’ruj} could be an abstract concept like the time words {tuch} “future, the future (as a whole)”, {pa'logh} “past, the past (as a whole)” or {DaHjaj} “today” (which also appears in a NOUN + NOUN phrase like {DaHjaj gheD} "catch of the day" (lit. "today's prey"). Although nouns, I wouldn’t put {-Daq} on any of them.
--Voragh
*From:* qurgh lungqIj
DI'ruj 'oH 'IDnar'e'! :D
I don't think {DI'ruj} is a location word like {bIng} or {Dung}, but it could be used as a location just as {Duj} or {ghop} could be.
On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 11:51 AM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm curious to know how to use {DI'ruj} in a sentence. Can we use it to make existential statements? For instance, would something like {DI'rujDaq 'IDnar tu'be'lu'} be interpreted in the sense of "Magic doesn't exist/is fictional"? Is {DI'ruj} a location, can it even take a {-Daq}? Does {'IDnar ngaSbe' DI'ruj} work for the same idea?
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Voragh wrote:
Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, June 05, 2018
Klingon word: DI'ruj velqa' nIqHom Part of speech: noun Definition: virtual reality software Source: qep'a' 23 [2016] _______________________________________________
DI'ruj reality (n) (qep'a' 2016) velqa' replica (n) (MKE) nIqHom software (n) (qep'a' 2016)
AFAIK never used in a sentence.
-- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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