KLCP Chart on Klingon Language Wiki
Hi all, I wanted to update this chart (http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/KLCPchart) that lists who has passed each level of the KLCP exams. Is there another official list of who is at which level? If not, and you know someone who has passed some exams or yourself have passed exams, please go ahead and add yourself OR let me know and I can add the names + dates! 'arHa -- Socialist Alternative <http://www.socialistalternative.org/> Klingon Language Institute <http://www.kli.org/>
Thanks to those who have sent me updates! When did people pass their exams? (I'm looking at you, Grammarians!) http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/KLCPchar <http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/KLCPchart>t </> -- Socialist Alternative <http://www.socialistalternative.org/> Klingon Language Institute <http://www.kli.org/> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:50 PM, John R. Harness <cartweel@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I wanted to update this chart (http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/KLCPchart) that lists who has passed each level of the KLCP exams. Is there another official list of who is at which level? If not, and you know someone who has passed some exams or yourself have passed exams, please go ahead and add yourself OR let me know and I can add the names + dates!
'arHa
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:16 PM, John R. Harness <cartweel@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to those who have sent me updates!
When did people pass their exams? (I'm looking at you, Grammarians!)
As far as I know, no one has taken the Grammarian level test (KLCP4) yet. I think the furthest people can go right now is *po'wI' *(Advanced/KLCP3). qurgh
Indeed. Yet we use "grammarian" to refer to advanced speakers all the time. For example, during the "Grammarian's Round Table" events at qep'a'. Also a note from the wiki is kind of funny: There is a *Grammarian* (*pab pIn*) rank in the Klingon Language Certification Program <http://www.klingonwiki.net/bin/view/En/KlingonLanguageCertificationProgram> (one level above the actual highest level), but no one has ever tried to take it and *the KLI isn't sure how to administer it*." -- Socialist Alternative <http://www.socialistalternative.org/> Klingon Language Institute <http://www.kli.org/> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:31 AM, qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:16 PM, John R. Harness <cartweel@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to those who have sent me updates!
When did people pass their exams? (I'm looking at you, Grammarians!)
As far as I know, no one has taken the Grammarian level test (KLCP4) yet. I think the furthest people can go right now is *po'wI' * (Advanced/KLCP3).
qurgh
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:43 PM, John R. Harness <cartweel@gmail.com> wrote:
Indeed. Yet we use "grammarian" to refer to advanced speakers all the time. For example, during the "Grammarian's Round Table" events at qep'a'.
I understand that some do, although I tend to avoid using it within the context of the KLI since it is a defined level that one could (theoretically) reach. I only know of two people who have been awarded it: Krankor and Seqram. (pab pIn SoHchugh je yIjatlh!!)
Also a note from the wiki is kind of funny: There is a *Grammarian* (*pab pIn*) rank in the Klingon Language Certification Program <http://www.klingonwiki.net/bin/view/En/KlingonLanguageCertificationProgram> (one level above the actual highest level), but no one has ever tried to take it and *the KLI isn't sure how to administer it*."
The Grammarian level does have a definition of what is needed to be done to pass it though: The grammarian test is a little different than the others. The test is in
two parts. The first part of test will consist of a collection of sentences, some grammatical, most not. The grammarian will have to provide an explanation of the grammatical details of the sentence, including an explanation for why the sentence may be ungrammatical. There will be 10 questions of this type. The material will cover all known canon sources for Klingon grammar, including issues that may still not be clearly understood.
The second part of the test will be an essay, a written response to an
essay question.
I just don't know if Holtej, or anyone else, has ever tried to figure out 10 questions of that type or if we have essay questions (which is why I wrote in the wiki that "the KLI isn't sure how to administer it" :D). Although I'm not at the point of taking that test, it would be nice to be able to become an offical "KLI Grammarian" one day. I know there's also a number of people on this list who could probably pass that level easily, so it might be something that is worthwhile looking into going forward. qurgh
Am 16.03.2017 um 18:06 schrieb qurgh lungqIj:
I understand that some do, although I tend to avoid using it within the context of the KLI since it is a defined level that one could (theoretically) reach. I only know of two people who have been awarded it: Krankor and Seqram. (pab pIn SoHchugh je yIjatlh!!)
THe problem really is that "Grammarian" is a general term, and then we even have the more confusing term of the "beginners grammarian", who surely is a grammarian, otherwise he could not be a "beginners grammarian" :-)
Although I'm not at the point of taking that test, it would be nice to be able to become an offical "KLI Grammarian" one day.
The only way to distinguish is capitalization: Grammarian (title) vs. grammarian (linguist). -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net
On 16 March 2017 at 17:16, John R. Harness <cartweel@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to those who have sent me updates!
When did people pass their exams? (I'm looking at you, Grammarians!)
Saarbrücken qepHomDaq taghwI' patlh vISuqta'. ghaytan DIS Sov Quvar (Lieven). muqawmoH: not baS Degh vIHevpu'. DaH SuqlaH'a' vay'? bIH vIboSchu' vIneH; chaq latlh patlh vISuq 'e' mupIlmoH. -- De'vID
Am 17.03.2017 um 06:29 schrieb De'vID:
Saarbrücken qepHomDaq taghwI' patlh vISuqta'. ghaytan DIS Sov Quvar (Lieven).
bIlugh. tameywIjDaq jIleghnIS.
muqawmoH: not baS Degh vIHevpu'. DaH SuqlaH'a' vay'? bIH vIboSchu' vIneH; chaq latlh patlh vISuq 'e' mupIlmoH.
vaj qepHom yISuch 'ej DeghlIj qanob! chaq qepHom DaSuchqa' 'e' DupIlmoH. ;-) -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net
I also did not receive my level 1 pin ter'eS From: De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> To: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@kli.org> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] KLCP Chart on Klingon Language Wiki On 16 March 2017 at 17:16, John R. Harness <cartweel@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to those who have sent me updates!
When did people pass their exams? (I'm looking at you, Grammarians!)
Saarbrücken qepHomDaq taghwI' patlh vISuqta'. ghaytan DIS Sov Quvar (Lieven). muqawmoH: not baS Degh vIHevpu'. DaH SuqlaH'a' vay'? bIH vIboSchu' vIneH; chaq latlh patlh vISuq 'e' mupIlmoH. -- De'vID _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
ghItlhpu' 'arHa, jatlh:
When did people pass their exams? (I'm looking at you, Grammarians!)
I passed my po'wI' exam in Reno in 2011 (after having also sat and passed the taghwI' and ghojwI' exams on the same day - it was my first qep'a' and I wasn't sure when I'd get to another). If a suitable test for the advertised Grammarian level were ever to be devised, I'd be keen to take it, or alternatively, assist with setting it up. I just wonder how it'd be integrated with the three-level structure of bronze, silver, and gold. QeS 'utlh
Clearly the grammarian level should have a fancy sash on which one can put the pins :) be''etlh On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 3:16 AM, Rhona Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com> wrote:
ghItlhpu' 'arHa, jatlh:
When did people pass their exams? (I'm looking at you, Grammarians!)
I passed my po'wI' exam in Reno in 2011 (after having also sat and passed the taghwI' and ghojwI' exams on the same day - it was my first qep'a' and I wasn't sure when I'd get to another).
If a suitable test for the advertised Grammarian level were ever to be devised, I'd be keen to take it, or alternatively, assist with setting it up. I just wonder how it'd be integrated with the three-level structure of bronze, silver, and gold.
QeS 'utlh
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It's far too late to make a change like this, but wouldn't it make more sense to make the sash the *first* level, and then add pins as one progresses? In terms of something we could actually do, it might make sense to have the Grammarian level indicated by a metal or plastic holder that the pins could be mounted in (and which would be visible behind them), which could then be mounted on a sash, vest, or other piece of clothing of the user's choice. For what it's worth, I'll probably be interested in the Grammarian exam someday (I still have two more regular levels to get through at the moment). I was somewhat surprised to learn that it had never actually be requested or run. - SapIr On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 06:20:14AM -0400, Elizabeth Faber wrote:
Clearly the grammarian level should have a fancy sash on which one can put the pins :)
be''etlh
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 3:16 AM, Rhona Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com> wrote:
ghItlhpu' 'arHa, jatlh:
When did people pass their exams? (I'm looking at you, Grammarians!)
I passed my po'wI' exam in Reno in 2011 (after having also sat and passed the taghwI' and ghojwI' exams on the same day - it was my first qep'a' and I wasn't sure when I'd get to another).
If a suitable test for the advertised Grammarian level were ever to be devised, I'd be keen to take it, or alternatively, assist with setting it up. I just wonder how it'd be integrated with the three-level structure of bronze, silver, and gold.
QeS 'utlh
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I passed the beginner level at qep'a' wa'maH cha'DIch in 2005. lay'tel SIvten On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:50 PM, John R. Harness <cartweel@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I wanted to update this chart (http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/KLCPchart) that lists who has passed each level of the KLCP exams. Is there another official list of who is at which level? If not, and you know someone who has passed some exams or yourself have passed exams, please go ahead and add yourself OR let me know and I can add the names + dates!
'arHa
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