Re: [tlhIngan Hol] wikiwiki (was Re: Klingon Weather Forecast)
wiki vs. To hurry, hasten; quick, fast, swift ~Michael Roney, Jr. Sent from my Palm Prē -------- Original message --------From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> Date: 8/2/17 15:30 (GMT-05:00) To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] wikiwiki (was Re: Klingon Weather Forecast) lieven:> Most don't even knwo what it meant initially. vaj, tagha'Ha' nuq 'oH ? so, what did it mean initially ? qunnoq On 2 Aug 2017 10:01 pm, "Lieven" <levinius@gmx.de> wrote: Am 02.08.2017 um 20:47 schrieb Michael Roney, Jr.: Lieven, if you wouldn't mind, could you inform Maltz that "wiki" is a Hawaiian word and not an English one. And then I'll likely shut up on the matter. I'll try what I can do, because I am not in direct contact with Maltz. I guess the basic problem is that Maltz is a Klingon informant in contact with the federation, whose primary language is "Federation Standard", i.e. English. This explains why nearly all of the loanword are based on English and not anything else. For instance, see {pIqarD}, which should be "pIyqagh" from the French pronunciation, or {'anyan} and other fruits which is different in most languages on earth. You may also see it from this perspective: Maltz was asked if he new what a wiki is by an English speaker. Maltz didn't know the word and just repeated it how he heard it, and that's what Marc Okrand wrote down. Am 02.08.2017 um 20:56 schrieb nIqolay Q:
One could make the argument that it's an English word that was derived
from Hawaiian. The English word "wiki" doesn't mean the same as the
Hawaiian, for instance.
Good point. English speakers - especially computer geeks - see the word wiki as a term for some computer system. Most don't even knwo what it meant initially. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Michael Roney, Jr. <nahqun@gmail.com> wrote:
wiki vs. To hurry, hasten; quick, fast, swift
The word Maltz is talking about is probably: wiki noun: wiki; plural noun: wikis a website that allows collaborative editing of its content and structure by its users. Origin coined by programmer Ward Cunningham (1949–), from Hawaiian wiki-wiki ‘quick-quick.’ qurgh
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