(ghunchu'wI', 8/21/2011): This is a general term for a planet's sun. It is not the name of a specific sun. Thus Okrand doesn’t capitalize “sun” when translating: QIStaq 'emDaq jenchoH jul The sun rises high behind the Kri'stak (PB) 'ach narghDI' jul nargh je moratlh qanjIt je HuDmeyvo' ghIr chaH But when the sun appeared, So did Morath and Kanjit, Over the hills, they came. (PB paq’raD: SaqSub chegh) [Are there any counter examples from PB or PB2?] wa’leS wov jul ‘e’ vItul I hope tomorrow will be sunny. (lit. “I hope tomorrow the sun is bright”) (qep’a’ 2016) wa’Hu’ jul So’mo’ ‘eng… Because it was (pretty) cloudy yesterday… (lit. “Because yesterday clouds hid the sun…”) (qep’a’ 2016) wa’Hu’ jul tlhoDmoHmo’ ‘eng… Because it was (sort of) cloudy yesterday… (lit. “Because yesterday clouds somewhat obscured the sun…”) (qep’a’ 2016) Note that we do have the proper name for Earth’s sun, Sol {Sol} [DIS 2889]. Of course, {jul} is a pun. I’ve seen three explanations: 1) "But soft; what light through yonder window breaks? It is the East, and JULiet is the sun!" (Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, II.ii) 2) Yule? (holiday celebrating the winter solstice) 3) The Joule (abbreviation jul) is a unit of energy which the Sun provides Voragh ___________________________________________________________ From: Will Martin via tlhIngan-Hol Sent: Friday, December 1, 2023 9:55 AM Just to note: the Sun and the Moon are both uppercase because they are the proper names of the star and the moon nearest Earth . Some other star referred to as a sun or some other moon referred to as a moon are lowercase because they are simple nouns, not the proper names of anything. On Dec 1, 2023, at 10:16 AM, Steven Boozer via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org>> wrote: Klingon word: julSIp Part of speech: noun Definition: helium (element) Source: qepHom 2015 p.13 _______________________________________________ AFAIK not used in a sentence. PUN: 1) the sun ({jul}) contains helium 2) helium was discovered by Jules Janssen [suggested by taD] SEE: jul sun (n) SIp gas (state of matter) (n) [etc.]

Oops! So it is. See http://klingon.wiki/En/NewWordsQepHom2020 Voragh -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of DloraH via tlhIngan-Hol Sent: Friday, December 1, 2023 4:34 PM Shouldn't "acetylene" be jejSIp? ________________________________________________ On Fri, 2023-12-01 at 15:16 +0000, Steven Boozer via tlhIngan-Hol wrote:

SEE: jul                      sun (n) SIp                      gas (state of matter) (n)    bIQSIp                hydrogen    rugh bIQSIp       anti-hydrogen    jelSIp                   acetylene    voQSIp                nitrogen    yInSIp                  oxygen