Re: [tlhIngan Hol] parent allegedly teaching only Klingon to a child
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 13:05, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
This is obviously baloney by a very bored troller.
'e' vIloy je. -- De'vID
I might be able to shed a bit of light here, as I researched that story a few month ago. A few years ago there was a guy who out of fun spoke Klingon with his son. They seemingly played games in Klingon and stuff like that, but when the kid stopped to be interested (around age 3/4), he stopped doing so. The kid of course also learned English. Nevertheless since that time the story comes up now and then in varying versions. I can't send you links right now, because I am not at my computer, but if you are interested either use Google or wait till Thursday, when I will have time to look for the original article. greetings rIyqa De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> schrieb am Di., 25. Sep. 2018 15:21:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 at 13:05, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
This is obviously baloney by a very bored troller.
'e' vIloy je.
-- De'vID _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
Am 25.09.2018 um 17:55 schrieb Rike Hermanni:
A few years ago there was a guy who out of fun spoke Klingon with his son. They seemingly played games in Klingon and stuff like that, but when the kid stopped to be interested (around age 3/4), he stopped doing so.
"a few" years ago? This sounds very familiar to the story of D'Armond Speers, but that has already happened many many years ago. There are many articles about this, here's a random one: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/19/darmond-speers-dad-spoke_n_363477.... http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/08/a-man-once-tried-to-raise-hi... What I always kept wondering lately is that the project was stopped due to too many missing words. But today, the amount of words has increased, so one could maybe try this again? -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/DArmondSpeers
On 9/25/2018 12:10 PM, Lieven L. Litaer wrote:
What I always kept wondering lately is that the project was stopped due to too many missing words. But today, the amount of words has increased, so one could maybe try this again?
I believe it was more about the fact that only d'Armond would speak Klingon to Alec, so the pressure to speak English was too great. Alec started to refuse to speak Klingon. Must be kind of weird to see your father speak perfect English to your mother, your relatives, but then speak only Klingon to you. Why does he do that? Alec got to an age of awareness of this, and wanted it to stop, so d'Armond stopped. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
Am 25.09.2018 um 18:15 schrieb SuStel:
Must be kind of weird to see your father speak perfect English to your mother, your relatives, but then speak only Klingon to you. Why does he do that?
Yes, that's true. My daughter is also raised bilingually, but she can also speak that second language to her grandparents, and also other people when we travel or even television. I'm sure there is not much Klingon language dubbed Tom & Jerry cartoons - yet. :-) -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/StarTrekDiscovery
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 18:15 SuStel, <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
I believe it was more about the fact that only d'Armond would speak Klingon to Alec, so the pressure to speak English was too great. Alec started to refuse to speak Klingon.
Must be kind of weird to see your father speak perfect English to your mother, your relatives, but then speak only Klingon to you. Why does he do that? Alec got to an age of awareness of this, and wanted it to stop, so d'Armond stopped.
Well, my son knows Klingon is a real language because he's observed me speaking to others. Just this Saturday I spoke with {DeSDu'} (Jack Bradley) over Discord while he was in the room with me, and he even tried to sing {Qoy qeylIS puqloD} for him. (He knows only the first, third, and last line, so a bit of lossy compression going on there.) And Sunday I took him to meet André Müller (whom he knows) and Christian Bayerlein (who was visiting) and we spoke Klingon together. I don't know to what degree he'll actually pick up the language, though. I'm not actively trying to teach him. -- De'vID
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