On 6/10/2021 9:25 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:

On/in/at SkyBox 3 there's the following:

'ejyo' luch rurbe'qu' tlhIngan Duj luch. HoS law'qu' luch law'qu' je lo' Duj nuH pat Hub pat je. motlh ray' luSamlaHmeH De' Qatlh cha' tlhIngan Duj jIH'a'. motlh pIm 'ejyo' Dujmey.

Klingon starship design is vastly different from Starfleet technology. A huge amount of the ship's power and technology is devoted to its weapons grid and defensive systems. Unlike most Starfleet vessels, the main viewer on a Klingon ship is usually overlaid with a complex target acquisition grid.

(I wrote on/in/at, since I have no idea what the jay' SkyBox 3 is, nor do I give a crap to find out either).

Anyways.. If I understand this Ca'Non sentence correctly, the {ray' luSamlaHmeH De' Qatlh} is a construction where there's the {-meH}'ed noun of {luSamlaHmeH De' Qatlh} with the {De' Qatlh} being meant as "difficult/complex informations", and in turn, the {luSamlaHmeH De' Qatlh} has as its' object the {ray'}.

No, I think *De' Qatlh* is the object of *cha'.* Complex data does not find targets *motlh ray' luSamlaHmeH, De' Qatlh cha' tlhIngan Duj jIH'a'.* The real question is, what is the subject of *luSamlaHmeH?* I think it's the *nuH pat* and *Hub pat* of the previous sentence. This flows naturally the way the Klingon sentences are arranged.

If the way I understand this is correct, then this shows that a {-meH}'ed noun can take an object, and that the {De'} "data, information" can be pluralized.

I don't think this card proves either of these points. I wouldn't have a problem with a purpose clause attached to a noun having an object anyway. We already have one with implicit object and subject: *qaSuchmeH 'eb*/opportunity for me to visit you/ (klingonska.org/canon/1998-01-18b-news.txt <http://klingonska.org/canon/1998-01-18b-news.txt>). -- SuStel http://trimboli.name