jIH: wa'Hu', yaHwIjDaq jIHtaH, 'ej bom 'IQ vI'IjchoH. bomvammo' jI'IQchoH, 'a bomvam vImevbe'. lieven:
vay' DamevlaHbe', mev vay' neH. mev bom DaneHchugh, vaj yImevmoH.
If I understand correctly, you mean that {mev} is intransitive ? Meaning that I can't say {bom vImev} for "I stop the song" ? And I can only say {bom vImevmoH} ? qunnoq On 2 Aug 2017 7:10 pm, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote: On 8/2/2017 11:59 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
'a, pIj bommey 'IQ parHa' nuv. 'ej vIparHa' je. 'e' vIchID. qatlh ? jISovchu'be'.
bom 'IQ DaQoy DaneHbejchugh, "Kilkelly, Ireland" yI'Ij. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
On 8/2/2017 12:20 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
jIH:
wa'Hu', yaHwIjDaq jIHtaH, 'ej bom 'IQ vI'IjchoH. bomvammo' jI'IQchoH, 'a bomvam vImevbe'.
lieven:
vay' DamevlaHbe', mev vay' neH. mev bom DaneHchugh, vaj yImevmoH.
If I understand correctly, you mean that {mev} is intransitive ?
Meaning that I can't say {bom vImev} for "I stop the song" ? And I can only say {bom vImevmoH} ?
It has been used both ways. *bIjatlh 'e' yImev*/Shut up!/ (TKD) The thing stopped is the object. *not mev peghmey*/Secrets never cease/. (PK) The thing stopped (or not, in this case) is the subject. *tagh* /start /has been used both ways, too: *taghbej mu'qaD veS*/Curse warfare has definitely begun./ (CK) The thing that gets started is the subject. *Qu' DataghDI' 'aqtu' mellota' je tIqaw*/When you begin a mission, remember Aktuh and Melota/. (TKW) The thing that gets started is the object. So, barring any further data, you can say either *bom vImev* or *bom vImevmoH.* -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
SuStel:
bom 'IQ DaQoy DaneHbejchugh, "Kilkelly, Ireland" yI'Ij.
luq ! wa'leS, yaHwIjDaq vIpawDI' 'ej 'Internet Do yap vIghaj, bomvam vIQoy. DaH, ghogh HablI'wIj neH vIlo'laH. qunnoq On 2 Aug 2017 7:33 pm, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
On 8/2/2017 12:20 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
jIH:
wa'Hu', yaHwIjDaq jIHtaH, 'ej bom 'IQ vI'IjchoH. bomvammo' jI'IQchoH, 'a bomvam vImevbe'.
lieven:
vay' DamevlaHbe', mev vay' neH. mev bom DaneHchugh, vaj yImevmoH.
If I understand correctly, you mean that {mev} is intransitive ?
Meaning that I can't say {bom vImev} for "I stop the song" ? And I can only say {bom vImevmoH} ?
It has been used both ways.
*bIjatlh 'e' yImev** Shut up!* (TKD) The thing stopped is the object.
*not mev peghmey** Secrets never cease*. (PK) The thing stopped (or not, in this case) is the subject.
*tagh* *start *has been used both ways, too:
*taghbej mu'qaD veS** Curse warfare has definitely begun.* (CK) The thing that gets started is the subject.
*Qu' DataghDI' 'aqtu' mellota' je tIqaw** When you begin a mission, remember Aktuh and Melota*. (TKW) The thing that gets started is the object.
So, barring any further data, you can say either *bom vImev* or *bom vImevmoH.*
-- SuStelhttp://trimboli.name
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