Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, February 18, 2020 Klingon word: vIqraq Part of speech: noun Definition: artifact, work of art Source: qepHom 2016 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh@kli.org).
Klingon word: vIqraq Part of speech: noun Definition: artifact, work of art Source: qepHom 2016 _______________________________________________ (Lieven, 11/07/2016): “Klingon for the Galactic Traveler (p. 79) says there is no single word for art or artwork. This refers to visual art (painting, sculpture, etc.). {meHghem} (arts, the arts, culture) is a bigger, more comprehensive term covering "the arts" or "art" as opposed to "science." So it includes music, theater, dance, etc. as well as visual art. It's "culture" in this sense. Similarly, {vIqraq} (artifact, work of art) is more general than a visual piece of art. It covers that, but also an artifact (not in the archaeological sense), handicraft, gizmo, gadget, contraption, machine, device, etc. – that is, something manufactured/made. (Lieven, Facebook [tlhIngan Hol jatlhwI'pu'], 12/01/2010): Finally, someone last year asked for the word for picture. At first, Maltz wondered why {nagh beQ} wasn't good enough. But then he thought about it some more and said that another word, {mIllogh}, could be used for any sort of depiction, including drawings, photographs, cartoons, icons on 21st-century computers, and so on. SEE: roSqa' archaeological artifact (n) (qepHom 2019) SEE ALSO: nagh beQ stone panel (artwork, similar to a painting) (n) mIllogh picture, image (visual) depiction, drawing, etc.) (n) ‘angweD museum (n) -- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 16:00, Klingon Word of the Day <kwotd@wizage.net> wrote:
Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, February 18, 2020
Klingon word: vIqraq Part of speech: noun Definition: artifact, work of art Source: qepHom 2016
"Fake rock"? Someone (Visirius) posted this about ablaut reduplication on the Klingon Discord recently and it seems relevant to {vIqraq}: https://www.rd.com/culture/ablaut-reduplication/ Does Klingon also follow this pattern? That is, are there words that sound like *{vaqrIq} instead? The only one that comes to mind is {raS'IS} (which is not *{rIS'aS}). -- De'vID
On 2/19/2020 1:30 AM, De'vID wrote:
Someone (Visirius) posted this about ablaut reduplication on the Klingon Discord recently and it seems relevant to {vIqraq}: https://www.rd.com/culture/ablaut-reduplication/
Does Klingon also follow this pattern? That is, are there words that sound like *{vaqrIq} instead? The only one that comes to mind is {raS'IS} (which is not *{rIS'aS}).
I don't know about this particular rule, but I do know that Okrand has given such things thought. We have the words *Dung*/area above/ and *bIng*/area below,/ which sound exactly backwards to an English-speaker's ear (which tends to have front-vowels for /up/ and back-vowels for /down/). I believe Okrand confirmed — though I cannot cite a source; it may have been a conversation at a qep'a' — that he did this intentionally. It's also possible that Okrand doesn't know about ablaut reduplication and lets his English bias bleed into Klingon. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
I always remembered {bIng} as “down” by imagining dropping a coin downward and hearing “bing”. I also imagine looking “up” and having a bird fly over: {Dung}. charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan rInpa’ bomnIS be’’a’ pI’.
On Feb 19, 2020, at 8:54 AM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
On 2/19/2020 1:30 AM, De'vID wrote:
Someone (Visirius) posted this about ablaut reduplication on the Klingon Discord recently and it seems relevant to {vIqraq}: https://www.rd.com/culture/ablaut-reduplication/ <https://www.rd.com/culture/ablaut-reduplication/>
Does Klingon also follow this pattern? That is, are there words that sound like *{vaqrIq} instead? The only one that comes to mind is {raS'IS} (which is not *{rIS'aS}). I don't know about this particular rule, but I do know that Okrand has given such things thought. We have the words Dung area above and bIng area below, which sound exactly backwards to an English-speaker's ear (which tends to have front-vowels for up and back-vowels for down). I believe Okrand confirmed — though I cannot cite a source; it may have been a conversation at a qep'a' — that he did this intentionally.
It's also possible that Okrand doesn't know about ablaut reduplication and lets his English bias bleed into Klingon.
-- SuStel http://trimboli.name <http://trimboli.name/>_______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
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