On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 03:19:13PM +0000, Steven Boozer wrote:

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Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, April 26, 2017

Klingon word: yIb Part of speech: noun Definition: vent Source: TKD

AFAIK never used in canon.

Not sure how this is different from the noun {ghImwI'} "exhaust", used one in the BOP Poster:

peng baHjan tuj ghImwI' heat exhaust for torpedo launcher (KBoP)

Is {yIb} more of an opening while {ghImwI'} - derived from {ghIm} "exile" - is an active device?

I would assume that a {ghImwI'} is a type of {yIb}. A vent doesn't necessarily have to be used for getting rid of some substance, even though that's what we normally think of when we hear the word.

SEE ALSO: taQbang exhaust (n) (waste?) pugh dregs (n) veQ garbage (n)

tlhuch exhaust (v) vuj expel, eject (v) (qep'a' 2016) nIj leak (v)

Do we know what the argument structure of {nIj} is? Is the subject the substance that's leaking, or the object from which it is leaking?

tlhuD emit (v) natlh use up (v)

What are the main semantic differences between {natlh} and {tlhuch}? Slash which sense of "exhaust" does {tlhuch} refer to (exhausting a person, exhausting a resource, or emitting exhaust)? -SapIr

On 26 April 2017 at 20:30, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:

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Slash which sense of "exhaust" does {tlhuch} refer to (exhausting a person, exhausting a resource, or emitting exhaust)?

AFAIK {tlhuch} has never been used either.

The definitions of other {tlhu-} verbs would seem to suggest that {tlhuch} has to do with intake/outtake. {tlhuD} v. emit {tlhuH} v. breathe {tlhup} v. whisper {tlhutlh} v. drink Of course, there's no reason why {tlhuch} needs to be related to these other verbs. (The only other {tlhu-} verb is {tlhu'} "be tempted", is not related.) -- De'vID

Anthony Appleyard :

We need a clear list of the Klingon for the various ideas that the word "exhaust" suggests:-

I think that we already have vocabulary covering most of these:

(1) V, to be/get tired :: By then I was exhausted after picking my annual plum crop.

Doy'qu' be very tired (v) jIDoy'qu' I am very tired. PK

(2) V, to use all of :: by year 2000 the oilfield was exhausted.

natlh use up, consume, expend: KGT 155: Literally meaning "consume, use up, expend", {natlh} is normally applied to energy, fuel, supplies, and the like and is used in phrases such as {nIn Hoch natlhlu'pu'} ("All the fuel has been consumed"), with {nIn Hoch} ("all the fuel") functioning as the object of the verb {natlhlu'pu'} ("someone/something has consumed it"). HoS law'qu' natlhmo' So'wI' Due to the tremendous energy drain of a cloaking device... S33 Qop be worn out (v) (KGT 163): The word {Qop} means be worn out and is usually applied to old weapons, tools, mechanical devices, and the like.

(3) N, pipe or vent to discharge waste from.

ghImwI' mechanism? peng baHjan tuj ghImwI' heat exhaust for torpedo launcher (KBoP) 'och conduit (KBOP), pipe? duct? (MO to Lieven, 1/09/2012): Regarding plumber - It turns out there is a special word for water pipe (not what you use for smoking - the kind that carries water from place to place): {qatlhDa'}. Though one could say {qatlhDa' mutlhwI'} and be understood, the normal way to refer to someone putting in pipes (for water or anything else) is {'och mutlhwI'}. yIb vent (cover at end: i.e. open or closed?) neb nozzle (like on the end of a hose, rocket, etc.)

(4) N, the waste gas or steam thus discharged.

taQbang exhaust Now cf. taQbang "urine, fecal matter" (slang) (qep'a' 2016) Add {SIp} "gas", {SeS} "steam", {vI'laS} "fog, mist", {tlhIch} "smoke", {lI'choD} "plasma", {woj} "radiation", etc. E.g. {SIp taQbang} or {taQbang SIp}.

(6) Any other uses that can be found.

V, to pipe, vent or discharge waste tlhuch exhaust vuj expel, eject (qep'a' 2016): Often used with {taQbang} "urine, fecal matter" (slang). (qurgh, 8/15/2016): Marc said about this word that it's for physically ejecting or expelling things only. It doesn't cover the meaning of "eject" or "expel" when a person is asked to leave somewhere and does so through their own ability (he was ejected from the club so he left and went home, the principal expelled the student), however it does count if the bouncer/teacher picks the person up and physically throws them out of the building. (qunnoq): So, can we use {vuj} to express "the CD player ejected the CD"?(qurgh, 8/15/2016): Yes. I actually asked about that exact thing. I had a laptop that would practically launch CDs across the table when I hit the eject button, and Marc confirmed that was definitely {vuj}.

(5) N, useful propulsive blast as from a jetmotor or a rocket.

??? I couldn't think of anything useful for this one. -- Voragh tlhIngan ghantoH pIn'a' Ca'Non Master of the Klingons