I've been wondering lately, how to express something like "you need to be willing to analyze this situation". Normally I would write {ghu'vam DapojnISqang}, but of course since {-nIS} and {-qang} can't co-exist, its out of the question. So, I thought of writing {ghu'vam DapojmeH yIpojqang} for "in order to analyze this situation, be willing to analyze it". Granted, meaning-wise, its not *exactly* the same as the intended "you need to be willing to analyze this situation", but I think its pretty close. Does anyone have a better idea ? And by saying "better" I mean truly better; I'm not asking for arguments "klingons wouldn't say that", or crap like "re-phrase everything, and leave it to context". If someone wants to go from new york to los angeles, he goes from new york to los angeles; perhaps he will stop somewhere in between, but he certainly won't go through china. ~ mayqel *I love maltz* qunen'oS
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On Jan 23, 2019, at 12:56 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
I've been wondering lately, how to express something like "you need to be willing to analyze this situation".
Normally I would write {ghu'vam DapojnISqang}, but of course since {-nIS} and {-qang} can't co-exist, its out of the question.
So, I thought of writing {ghu'vam DapojmeH yIpojqang} for "in order to analyze this situation, be willing to analyze it". Granted, meaning-wise, its not *exactly* the same as the intended "you need to be willing to analyze this situation", but I think its pretty close.
Does anyone have a better idea ?
And by saying "better" I mean truly better; I'm not asking for arguments "klingons wouldn't say that", or crap like "re-phrase everything, and leave it to context".
If someone wants to go from new york to los angeles, he goes from new york to los angeles; perhaps he will stop somewhere in between, but he certainly won't go through china.
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Klingons don’t need to be willing to say that. You need to be willing to re-phrase everything, and leave it to context. I try to avoid using -ghach, but this might be a good use for it: potlh/'ut ghu'vam pojqangghachlIj - Your willingness to analyze of this situation is important/essential (depending on the severity of the “need” part)
On Jan 23, 2019, at 02:56, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
I've been wondering lately, how to express something like "you need to be willing to analyze this situation".
Normally I would write {ghu'vam DapojnISqang}, but of course since {-nIS} and {-qang} can't co-exist, its out of the question.
So, I thought of writing {ghu'vam DapojmeH yIpojqang} for "in order to analyze this situation, be willing to analyze it". Granted, meaning-wise, its not *exactly* the same as the intended "you need to be willing to analyze this situation", but I think its pretty close.
Does anyone have a better idea ?
And by saying "better" I mean truly better; I'm not asking for arguments "klingons wouldn't say that", or crap like "re-phrase everything, and leave it to context".
If someone wants to go from new york to los angeles, he goes from new york to los angeles; perhaps he will stop somewhere in between, but he certainly won't go through china.
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Maybe something like: {SuvwI’ HoS Damoj DaneHchugh, Hoch naHlIj DaSopqang net poQ.} “If you want to become a strong warrior, it is required that you eat all your vegetables.” —jevreH Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 23, 2019, at 08:27, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
Re Andeen:
net poQ
How exactly would you use {net poQ} to express the desired "need to be willing" ?
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A couple of examples using {poQ} “demand”: muSuvbogh DoS vIpoQ. I need a target that fights back. ST5 loHwI' vISuch 'e' vIpoQ! I demand to see the magistrate! (ENT "Affliction") The second example might be translated as “I need to see the magistrate!” especially when accompanied by shouting and banging the table. For something stronger than {neH} “want” or {jIn} “wish}, {qoy'} "plead, beg" and {qap} “insist” could also work in different contexts. --Voragh From: Jeffrey Clark Maybe something like: {SuvwI’ HoS Damoj DaneHchugh, Hoch naHlIj DaSopqang net poQ.} “If you want to become a strong warrior, it is required that you eat all your vegetables.” —jevreH On Jan 23, 2019, at 08:27, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com<mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>> wrote: Re Andeen:
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How exactly would you use {net poQ} to express the desired "need to be willing" ? ~ mayqel *I love maltz* qunen'oS
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