Star Trek: Discovery
Does the thirty-day silence rule (which we sometimes use on new products) count for DSC too? What about spoilers? qul yIchu'! -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/StarTrekDiscovery
My suggestion is for us to have a two day silence rule, since it doesn't air until Monday in some parts of the world, so Wednesday morning (UTC) would be the earliest we can talk about the Klingon used in the show, as long as the discussion does not involve spoilers. Spoilers should be avoided at all costs until at least the end of a season (maybe 30 days after the end of the season?), so that people who wish to binge watch it can do so. If spoiling is impossible during the discussion, then emails should be marked as containing spoilers in both the subject line and the body of the email (at the top, on it's own line). qurgh On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
Does the thirty-day silence rule (which we sometimes use on new products) count for DSC too? What about spoilers?
qul yIchu'!
-- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/StarTrekDiscovery _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
I agree 100% with qurgh. Messages containing spoilers should be marked both at the title, and within the body of the text of the message. Anyone refusing to comply should have his Sa'Hut removed ! qunnoq On Sep 21, 2017 8:40 PM, "qurgh lungqIj" <qurgh@wizage.net> wrote:
My suggestion is for us to have a two day silence rule, since it doesn't air until Monday in some parts of the world, so Wednesday morning (UTC) would be the earliest we can talk about the Klingon used in the show, as long as the discussion does not involve spoilers.
Spoilers should be avoided at all costs until at least the end of a season (maybe 30 days after the end of the season?), so that people who wish to binge watch it can do so.
If spoiling is impossible during the discussion, then emails should be marked as containing spoilers in both the subject line and the body of the email (at the top, on it's own line).
qurgh
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
Does the thirty-day silence rule (which we sometimes use on new products) count for DSC too? What about spoilers?
qul yIchu'!
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It should be noted that the Monday morning release in Europe is not actually the next day. Sunday 8pm EST is midnight GMT on Monday, isn't it? Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:40:02 PM To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Star Trek: Discovery My suggestion is for us to have a two day silence rule, since it doesn't air until Monday in some parts of the world, so Wednesday morning (UTC) would be the earliest we can talk about the Klingon used in the show, as long as the discussion does not involve spoilers. Spoilers should be avoided at all costs until at least the end of a season (maybe 30 days after the end of the season?), so that people who wish to binge watch it can do so. If spoiling is impossible during the discussion, then emails should be marked as containing spoilers in both the subject line and the body of the email (at the top, on it's own line). qurgh On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de<mailto:levinius@gmx.de>> wrote: Does the thirty-day silence rule (which we sometimes use on new products) count for DSC too? What about spoilers? qul yIchu'! -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/StarTrekDiscovery _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org> http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
Close; GMT (UTC +0) is five hours ahead of EST (UTC -5), so 8:00 PM EST is 1.00 GMT. However, it's true that 8:00 PM EDT (UTC -4) [summer time on the US East coast] is midnight GMT, although the flip side of that coin is that the UK is currently on BST (UTC +1), because some <vum> just had to go and invent Daylight Saving Time and make life difficult for us. 21 sep. 2017 kl. 23:18 skrev David Holt <kenjutsuka@live.com<mailto:kenjutsuka@live.com>>: It should be noted that the Monday morning release in Europe is not actually the next day. Sunday 8pm EST is midnight GMT on Monday, isn't it? Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org>> on behalf of qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net<mailto:qurgh@wizage.net>> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:40:02 PM To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org<mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org> Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Star Trek: Discovery My suggestion is for us to have a two day silence rule, since it doesn't air until Monday in some parts of the world, so Wednesday morning (UTC) would be the earliest we can talk about the Klingon used in the show, as long as the discussion does not involve spoilers. Spoilers should be avoided at all costs until at least the end of a season (maybe 30 days after the end of the season?), so that people who wish to binge watch it can do so. If spoiling is impossible during the discussion, then emails should be marked as containing spoilers in both the subject line and the body of the email (at the top, on it's own line). qurgh On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de<mailto:levinius@gmx.de>> wrote: Does the thirty-day silence rule (which we sometimes use on new products) count for DSC too? What about spoilers? qul yIchu'! -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/StarTrekDiscovery _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org> http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org> http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
From what I've read it won't get released in the UK until 8am BST, which would be 3am EDT. Since many people are at work at that time in the UK, they won't get to see it until the evening, which would be Monday early afternoon on the US East coast.
qurgh On Sep 21, 2017 5:18 PM, "David Holt" <kenjutsuka@live.com> wrote: It should be noted that the Monday morning release in Europe is not actually the next day. Sunday 8pm EST is midnight GMT on Monday, isn't it? Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36> ------------------------------ *From:* tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net> *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:40:02 PM *To:* tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org *Subject:* Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Star Trek: Discovery My suggestion is for us to have a two day silence rule, since it doesn't air until Monday in some parts of the world, so Wednesday morning (UTC) would be the earliest we can talk about the Klingon used in the show, as long as the discussion does not involve spoilers. Spoilers should be avoided at all costs until at least the end of a season (maybe 30 days after the end of the season?), so that people who wish to binge watch it can do so. If spoiling is impossible during the discussion, then emails should be marked as containing spoilers in both the subject line and the body of the email (at the top, on it's own line). qurgh On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
Does the thirty-day silence rule (which we sometimes use on new products) count for DSC too? What about spoilers?
qul yIchu'!
-- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/StarTrekDiscovery _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
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I'm not sure about the very first episode, but the following episodes will premiere on Netflix at 12 am PT every Monday. (except for Canada and US, of course) -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Netflix
On 9/21/2017 1:32 PM, Lieven wrote:
Does the thirty-day silence rule (which we sometimes use on new products) count for DSC too? What about spoilers?
I don't see the point. Put [spoilers] in the subject line, then talk away. Anyone who hasn't seen it yet can save your message until they do. The thirty-day rule is dumb enough for stuff Okrand says or publishes; there's no point at all in doing so for stuff that isn't even canonical Klingon. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
Am 21.09.2017 um 19:51 schrieb SuStel:
I don't see the point. Put [spoilers] in the subject line, then talk away. Anyone who hasn't seen it yet can save your message until they do.
I justed wanted to have talked it.
The thirty-day rule is dumb enough for stuff Okrand says or publishes; there's no point at all in doing so for stuff that isn't even canonical Klingon.
We have had that discussion already, and agreed on that. But there may still be people on the list who just want to know what was said on screen. I wanted to know how to react to that properly. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/StarTrekDiscovery
Honestly, every line of Klingon dialog that we would discuss here would count as a spoiler for DSC. As long as everyone has had at least a 24 hour window in which to view the episode, I think we should be able to discuss everything freely. This way everyone is able to jump into the discussion instead of having to wait for the episode to hit in their region. Just put "Discovery" or "DSC" in your subject line. Anyone wanting to avoid spoilers will know to avoid that thread.
As the list Administrator, here are the rules for this list regarding Discovery: Wait two days after the USA release so that those that don't get releases until Monday morning or work long shifts have a chance to see it before stuff starts showing up here (so Tuesday night/Wednesday morning if it stays with Sunday airdate). Any posts that contain spoilers should have the word "Spoiler" in the subject line (preferably the first word in the subject line) and should contain the word "Spoiler" at the top of the body (because some mail clients don't show subject lines when they change mid-thread). If you aren't sure it's a spoiler, mark it as a spoiler. This way everyone around the planet gets a chance to see episodes without them being spoiled (even accidentally) but people can start talking about them soon after they air. Remember, we are here to have fun and enjoy the Klingon language. Spoilers are NOT fun so be considerate of your fellow list members when you post. qurgh
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