How many times do we need to repeat the -neS ?
Suppose we want to say: {nov Dun, Hoch jaj bIvemDI', nIQlIj DatIvmeH, vaghmaH Sor Sopchugh, vaj tagha' chal bIQ ngem Hoch Danatlh} "great alien, each day as soon as you wake up, in order to enjoy your breakfast, if you eat fifty trees, then finally the entire rain forest will be gone" (I wonder how I keep thinking this kind of sentences..) Anyway.. If we want to make this sentence honorific, then were do we place the -neS ? With the exception of the Dun which is used as an adjective, then do we need to place -neS on every single verb of that sentence ? That is should we write: {nov Dun, Hoch jaj bIvemneSDI', nIQlIj DatIvneSmeH, vaghmaH Sor SopneSchugh, vaj tagha' chal bIQ ngem Hoch DanatlhneS} ? Or if we used -neS fewer times, or maybe only once, it would suffice too ? ~ mayqel *capricorn* qunen'oS
Am 20.02.2019 um 15:21 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:
Suppose we want to say: [...] If we want to make this sentence honorific, then were do we place the -neS ? With the exception of the Dun which is used as an adjective, then do we need to place -neS on every single verb of that sentence ?
There's probably no rule about this, so repetition is not wrong. But I agree it sounds awkward. So for having a good writing style, I would suggest you only use it once. But to make clear the listener knows you honor them, you should use the suffix before anything else: "yIqImneS: Hoch jaj bIvemDI', nIQlIj DatIvmeH, [...]" But also remember from TKD: "This suffix is used rather infrequently by Klingons." So another base for using it only once in a sentence instead of repeating. I think of the English situation: Great alien, each day as soon as "your honor" wake up, in order to enjoy "your honor"s breakfast, if "your honor" eat fifty trees[...] -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/StarTrekDiscovery
I’d just put {-neS} on the main verb, {DanatlhneS}. It’s like a bow that you make at the end of your speech. You don’t want to be bowing over and over again as you speak. The other verbs are already grammatically burdened, displaying their dependency upon the main verb at the end. Let that main verb carry the weight of the honorific. Sent from my iPad
On Feb 20, 2019, at 9:21 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
Suppose we want to say:
{nov Dun, Hoch jaj bIvemDI', nIQlIj DatIvmeH, vaghmaH Sor Sopchugh, vaj tagha' chal bIQ ngem Hoch Danatlh} "great alien, each day as soon as you wake up, in order to enjoy your breakfast, if you eat fifty trees, then finally the entire rain forest will be gone"
(I wonder how I keep thinking this kind of sentences..)
Anyway..
If we want to make this sentence honorific, then were do we place the -neS ? With the exception of the Dun which is used as an adjective, then do we need to place -neS on every single verb of that sentence ?
That is should we write: {nov Dun, Hoch jaj bIvemneSDI', nIQlIj DatIvneSmeH, vaghmaH Sor SopneSchugh, vaj tagha' chal bIQ ngem Hoch DanatlhneS} ?
Or if we used -neS fewer times, or maybe only once, it would suffice too ?
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