On 4/11/2019 1:40 PM, Ed Bailey wrote:
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 12:29 PM SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:

SIch includes the touching. The answer is only yes.

I presume you wouldn't want that statement taken too literally. Consider a non-contact ammeter. If I'm able to measure the current, I have reached the wire, without ever touching it.
So more generally, SIch involves getting a body part, implement, etc. close enough to able to do whatever the purpose of SIch was, if there was a purpose.
SIch might not involve purpose, but a result that can occur from getting close enough. 'ul SIrgh veH SIch turmIqlIj pep'en 'e' yIchaw'Qo'! Don't whizz on the electric fence!

You took what I said out of context. Go back to Lieven's email to see why I said that.

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