On 1/9/2019 11:45 AM, Lieven L. Litaer wrote:
Am 09.01.2019 um 17:16 schrieb SuStel:
I doubt that reasoning.

Of course you do. I didn't expect anything else. ;-)

If you didn't say things like that we wouldn't argue nearly as much.


We see transliterations between English and
Klingon drop sounds all the time. /France/ -> *vIraS...* What happened to the /n?/

Okrand did so because the N is not a spoken sound:

"For "France," pronounced in French, the "n" also indicates nasalization — it's not pronounced as an individual sound — so, for Klingon, I just skipped it: vIraS (not vIranIs or something like that). I followed the same line of thinking for mIyama (rather than mIyanma)."

(Marc Okrand, qepHom 2016)

Fair enough. Now explain why Enterprise is transliterated 'entepray' without the first r or the s — or with the final '.


I could imagine a Klingon hearing *QISmaS,* hearing that some guy named Christ is involved, not thinking too carefully about it, and assuming that the holiday is /Christ Moon./

I actually do not seen that a foreigner would immediately see the connection between the person "kra-yist" and the event of "kris-mes". And I really have a lot of exerience with foreigners switching languages and misunderstandings based on just that.

I said in my premise that the Klingon heard that some guy named Christ is involved in QISmaS. What I said follows from that; don't ignore it. If we assume a Klingon who has heard of QISmaS and has heard of Christ, but not that the two are related, I would not conclude that the Klingon would make the connection.

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