On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 14:24, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:

If we say {juHvamvo' jIHaw'}, the "getting out" carries a sense of urgency.

But lets see it in reverse. Can I say {jIHaw'} without the "I flee", carrying with it a sense of "getting out" ?

And to say an example..

There is a person in the middle of the desert. He's not in a house/tent/oasis whatever.

A second person arrives, and causes the first one to flee, but this first person doesn't leave the desert. He flees to another location, which is still in the same desert.

Can we say {nuv cha'DIchmo' Haw'pu' nuv wa'DIch} ?

Or since the first person, didn't get out of a place, we can't use {Haw'} ?

But the first person *is* fleeing from/getting out of something: being in the presence of the second person.

We have in canon:

{may'meyDajvo' Haw'be' tlhIngan} "A Klingon does not run away from his battles." (TKW)

{moratlh / DaH bIHaw'laHtaHbe' / puj 'uSDu'lIj} "Now, Morath / You can run no more, / Your legs are weak." (paq'batlh p.74-75)

{yerchajvo' Haw' / qamchIynganpu' / ngIq nuv luHoH} "The people of Qam-Chee, / They fled their territory, / And were killed one by one." (paq'batlh p.134-135)

In the first, a battle is not a place. In the second, Morath is running away from Kahless, which is exactly the situation you're describing.

Only in the third example is someone "getting out" of a place.

De'vID