On May 17, 2019, at 1:33 PM, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:

And (the subject of this thread), in order to say "someone sees all cats", we *have* to place the {-mey} on the noun after the {Hoch}, thus writing {Hoch vIghro'mey luleghlu'}.

In my internalized model of how {Hoch X} works, the alternative {Hoch vIghro' luleghlu'} violates a kind of {rom}. The plural indication of the verb prefix isn’t strong enough to coerce {Hoch vIghro'} into meaning {Hoch vIghro'mey}.

I see the prefix as entirely passive. It agrees with the subject and some object, whether or not those subjects or objects are present in the sentence. The prefix never enforces person or number on its own.

This is why it drives me nuts when people say things like maghom Hoch for We all meet. The prefix doesn't force Hoch to become first-person plural. Hoch is third-person singular and the prefix has no choice but to agree with it.

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