On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 12:26 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
ghunchu'wI':
> You have not yet demonstrated your 
> understanding.

I wrote earlier my understanding of time span and time stamp, through the dialogue which took place between me and SuStel. did you expect me to write specific examples or something ?

What you wrote, and what you continue to write, shows that your understanding in this matter is still faulty.

As far as the {Soch DIS vorgh jIQuch}, is concerned, I still can't understand where is the problem.

As SuStel said, {Soch DIS vorgh} is a time stamp. As was said earlier in this thread, time stamps don't require the {qaStaHvIS}. So, in the {Soch DIS vorgh jIQuch}, where is the problem ?

I haven't seen a message where he said that {Soch DIS vorgh} is a time stamp. On the contrary, I have seen him pointing out that counting days or years makes them *not* a time stamp.
 
You can say that for you "it doesn't convey the desired meaning/feeling/whatever". But is it ungrammatical ?

The phrase {Soch DIS vorgh} has no obvious function in your suggested {Soch DIS vorgh jIQuch}, and the sentence does not convey a meaning I can identify with any confidence. I would call it ungrammatical.
 
If the sentence utilized a time span instead i.e. {Soch DIS jIQuch}, then for the reasons SuStel explained, it would be ungrammatical. But since it uses a time stamp, then where is the problem ?

The problem is that it does *not* use a time stamp.
 
Can you explain with reasonable arguments why I can say {DaSjaj jIQuch}, while at the same time you are telling me that I cannot say {Soch DIS vorgh jIQuch} ?

SuStel has already given exactly the reasonable arguments I would use. I don't know how to improve on them, besides stating again that a counted duration is a time span and is not the kind of thing one uses as a time stamp.
 
Or is the {qaStaHvIS} another glorious "maltz said so" ? because if it is, then hey I'm all for it ! just tell me though, and save me the grief of trying to understand obviously contradictory explanations.

The only contradictory explanation I see is when SuStel said "X is a time stamp; Y is a time span" but you then said "SuStel says Y is a time stamp."

-- ghunchu'wI'