What actually makes me wonder, is when the two noun phrases are equated with each other and when not.

As we discussed, in Aurelie's example {yaSvaD qama'vaD..} the absence of a {je} after the {qama'vaD} has the result that the the officer is a prisoner.

However, in the {Qo'noSDaq SoSlI' juHDaq..} example, the absence of a {je} after the {juHDaq}, doesn't necessarily lead to the two noun phrases being equated with each other.

I guess, what I'm trying to understand, is whether there is a rule, as to when the absence of {je} will lead to the equation of the noun phrases with each other and when not.

Is there such a rule, or is it something which is decided each time based on context ? Or maybe even on which type-5 noun suffix is actually used ? Because in Aurelie's example we have a {-vaD}, while in mine we have a {-Daq}.

qunnoq

On Sep 20, 2017 4:36 PM, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
On 9/20/2017 9:02 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:

Suppose I write the sentence: 

{Qo'noSDaq SoSlI' juHDaq qajatlh, latlh be' vImuSHa'}

"At Qo'noS at your mother's house I told you, that I love another woman".

Do you agree with the above translation, or is it, that due to the absence of a {je} after the {juHDaq}, the meaning becomes "at your mother's house which is Qo'noS I told you, that I love another woman" ?

You could interpret it that way. I don't think the lack of a je makes the difference. It could also be interpreted as two separate locatives that both apply simultaneously, one being of a different scope than another.

In a cavern, in a canyon
Excavating for a mine
Dwelt a miner, forty-niner
And his daughter, Clementine.

In the verse, the locatives in a cavern and in a canyon are not in apposition to each other. The cavern is within the canyon. The subjects of the sentence both have appositional pairs: a miner = forty-niner and his daughter = Clementine.

In your Klingon sentence, it's possible that SoSlI' juH is within the scope of Qo'noS.

If the sentence did have a je, the meaning would be different:

Qo'noSDaq SoSlI' juHDaq je qajatlh
I speak to you on Kronos and in your mother's home

Here it's possible that you speak to me in both of those places, but not in a single utterance. One day you speak to me on Kronos; another day you speak to me in my mother's house.

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