SuStel is using the method for translating “which/what is X?” that Okrand introduced on the old
msn.onstage.startrek.expert.okrand BBS. FYI here is the relevant part of his post (unformatted):
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From: MarcOkrand <…>
Newsgroups: msn.onstage.startrek.expert.okrand
Date: December 12, 1996
Subject: What do you think?
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(2) You suggested translating "What is your favorite month?" as:
jarlIj qaq nuq?
This one's a little easier to deal with. Your sentence literally means
"What is your preferable month?" The basic syntax is correct. Question
words (in this case, nuq "what?") function the same way pronouns do in
questions with "to be" in the English translations. Thus, the question
yIH nuq? "What is a tribble?" is exactly parallel the statement
yIH 'oH
"It is a tribble" (where
yIH is "tribble" and 'oH is "it"). The answer to the question yIH nuq? ("What is a tribble?") would presumably be a
definition or description of a tribble. This being the case, then, the
answer to the question
jarlIj qaq nuq? ("What is your preferable month?") would presumably be a definition of "your favorite month." But this is not what you want to find out by asking your question. What you really mean to ask is something like "Of all the months, which one
do you prefer?"
The first word in your sentence,
jarlIj, means "your month" (jar "month," -lIj "your"). But given that what you're really asking is "Which month do you prefer?" it's not really "your month" at all. The "you" should go with the verb, not with "month."
Which brings us to the verb. You use
qaq, "be preferable," adjectivally
(jarlIj qaq is "your preferable month"). I think what you mean is better
expressed by using the verb
maS "prefer" with "you" as the subject: jar
DamaS "you prefer the month." If you want to highlight the notion of
"most prefer," you can use the emphatic suffix -qu':
jar DamaSqu' "you
very much prefer the month." (In this case, since "prefer" involves
making a choice, the one chosen is automatically the one that is "most"
preferred.)
So what about the "what" (or "which") of your original question
("What/which is your favorite month?")? When asking someone a question of
this type, you are really asking him or her to make a choice. So just be
a Klingon and order them to do so: "Identify the month that you very much prefer!":
jar DamaSqu'bogh yIngu'
DamaSqu'bogh "that you very much prefer" (DamaSqu'
"you very much prefer
it" plus -bogh "which," the relative-clause marker) modifies
jar "month"
and the whole phrase jar DamaSqu'bogh
"the month that you very much
prefer" is the object of the verb
ngu' ("identify"), which is preceded by the imperative prefix yI- ("do something to it!").
Given that there's an awful lot about Klingon grammar that's not yet known, you did a good job coming up with the translations you came up with. I hope my explanations and clarifications make sense.
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SuStel
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 10:47 AM
On 12/14/2016 11:17 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
I'm just asking in order to make sure I understand this correctly.
lets say I want to ask "which ship arrived ?". both {paw'ta' Duj nuq} and {paw'ta' nuq Duj} are wrong, right ?
paw, not paw' (unless the arrival was very rough!).
nuq goes into the place of the answer. If the answer isn't the same sentence with a substitution for
nuq, then the question is not formed correctly.
If the answer to the question is, for instance, that the Enterprise arrived, then the answer is
pawta' 'entepray'. But this isn't in the same form that you asked it, because it doesn't include the word
Duj. So the entire method of asking the question is doubtful.
There are some answers that would fit, like, say, pawta' DIvI' Duj. But not every answer will fit, so you may not be able to ask questions this way.
In any case, we've never seen Okrand use nuq or 'Iv in a noun-noun construction like this, so whether or not this is allowed is unknown.
The most common thing to do is turn it into a command to identify: paw'ta'bogh Duj yIngu' identify the ship that has arrived! If you're not asking for a name, you might get more specific, like
pawta'bogh Duj Sar yIngu' identify the type of ship that has arrived!
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