On 2/28/2017 11:45 AM, Lieven wrote:
Am 28.02.2017 um 16:26 schrieb SuStel:
None of them are used to describe an agentless action, lending credence
to the argument that the dearth of agentless *-lI'* shows that it isn't
allowed.

Could you rephrase that, so that a non-native english speaking non-linguist can understand, please.

One of the three arguments made to support the idea that -lI' can only be used when someone intends the action to reach a goal is that of all the canonical examples of -lI', none involve an action someone did not choose a goal for. "If -lI' can be used for stopping points not intended by anybody," goes the argument, "why don't we see any examples of this in the canon?"

Voragh listed seven examples of -lI' from paq'batlh, all of which are about actions in which someone intends a specific outcome.

With an even greater number of examples of -lI' that do not show that someone set up a goal intentionally, the "why haven't we seen any?" argument grows stronger.

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