charghwI':> The first problem is that your English
> sentence is very ambiguous, so how can
> we know exactly how to translate it?
If I remember correctly, even the tkd section on {je} states, that the use of {je} can create ambiguous sentences.
The intended meaning on the example sentence I provided, can be any of the meanings that you mentioned..
But how does this influence the placement of the {je} relative to the {rIntaH}, which is/was the original question ?
Regardless the exact intended meaning, the question stands the same:
In what order do we need to be placing the {je} and the {rIntaH} ?
~ mayqel qunen'oS