qurgh:
> Where is the rule that they can't be part of a
> noun-noun construction, I must have missed
> it? 

SuStel wrote this a few days ago, at the "who shall call them from the twilight ?" thread.

qunnoH jan puqloD
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'


On 16 Dec 2016 2:21 pm, "qurgh lungqIj" <qurgh@wizage.net> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 6:24 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
to continue on something which I asked yesterday..

we said that we can't have {'Iv} and {nuq} as part of noun-noun

We can't? I thought {nuq} and {'Iv} just go into whatever noun spot contains the missing information. Where is the rule that they can't be part of a noun-noun construction, I must have missed it? 

I would have expected the following to be grammatical:

{tIn 'Iv Duj} - Who's ship is big?
{Hab SoSwI' nuq} - My mother's what is smooth?
 
constructions. but can we have the {ghorgh} and {nuqDaq} existing next
to nouns ?

for example can we say:

{ghorgh DaSjaj mamej}
when do we depart on monday ?

{DaSjaj ghorgh mamej}
on monday when do we depart

I would put {ghorgh} first (same with {chay'} and {qatlh}), so the listener knows right away that it's a question, although as with a lot of the chuvmey, they just "occur at the beginning of the sentence", and the specific order is down to personal preference most of the time. 
 

{nuqDaq tera'Daq mIl'oDmey tu'lu'}
where on earth someone finds bears ?

{tera'Daq nuqDaq mIl'oDmey tu'lu'}
on earth where someone finds bears ?

Since {nuqDaq} is a locative phrase just like {tera'Daq}, they can go either way around, although I'd put it in the spot where's I'd expect the answer to be:

tera'Daq nuqDaq mIl'oDmey tu'lu'? tera'Daq HuDaq mIl'oDmey tu'lu'.

qurgh

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