On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:33 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.comJust for the record, I want to add that this is something that we have agreed on, just because it makes it easier for beginners (and others) to read the words. This is one of the situations of TKD that leaves different interpretations and has lead to long discussions in the past: some say that TKD only explains compound nouns, others see it as a guideline how to "make" compound words. The three lines in TKD are really not much, and after all, it really doesn't matter, so Okrand is right that we shouldn't bother too much about that.
<mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>> wrote:
So we can glue two nouns together ?
Am 13.07.2017 um 19:25 schrieb qurgh lungqIj:
The common practice is to keep nouns separate [...]
Am 13.07.2017 um 19:45 schrieb SuStel:
> No. Your question is exactly why we have to be careful when telling
> people that Okrand said it wasn't a big deal.
Indeed, all of the above is correct, and I won't contradict.
I still think coining new compound words is acceptable, but I do understand the value of not confusing beginners, so I'll stay off the topic from now on.
I'll just point out a little tidbit. It doesn't prove anything
one way or the other.
When working on Star Trek V, Okrand had written the line vaj toDDujDaj ngeHbej DIvI' That means the Federation will be sending its own rescue ship. But during production Klaa says the line twice, and the second time it's supposed to mean Shooting space garbage is no test of a warrior's mettle. We get the text of this line later in The Klingon Way: vaj toDuj Daj ngeHbej DI vI' (literally, cosmos rubble marksmanship inconclusively tests warriorhood courage). Here, Okrand went out of his way to separate DI and vI', obviously to say look out! these aren't what you think they are. But Klaa pronounces them exactly the same as DIvI' Federation. And if he were really interested in pushing together words, he's probably have gone with ngeHbejDI vI' for cosmos-rubble marksmanship. But he didn't. He kept separate words as separate words.
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