On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 22:52, Will Martin <willmartin2@mac.com> wrote:
It’s interesting that the subject of {nob} is the indirect object of {nobHa’}.

It is?

From The Klingon Way p.189:
{Huch nobHa'bogh verenganpu''e' yIvoqQo'.} [sic - {yI-} should be {tI-}]

The subject of {nob} is the giver. The subject of {nobHa'} is also the giver (or giving-back-er). The indirect object in both cases (if you mean a noun with {-vaD}) is the recipient.
 
I’m surprised that {nobHa’} isn’t to take something back, rather than to give something back.

I guess I can see the logic in that, but {nobHa'} is very easily explained as "undo giving", and it's open whether the subject of {nobHa'} is the original giver or the original recipient. Perhaps it can work either way, depending on context?

However, {tlhapqa'} is obviously "retrieve" (take something back).
 
But it’s arbitrary, and this is the official way Klingon’s mean it.

charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan


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