On Oct 2, 2016, at 9:57 AM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:

Except the prefix trick only works for first- and second-person indirect objects, so *Quvar vIponglu' is simply ungrammatical.

What is wrong with it? {vIponglu'} does specify a first person object. 

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