In American Sign Language, they frequently sign “Same” with a “Y” hand shape (pinky and thumb extended from a fist), waving the hand between pointing the pinky at the other person and the thumb at the signer’s chest, with a facial expression appropriate to the subtleties of the specific comment._______________________________________________They don’t seem to get tired of it, since in addition to saying, “Me, too” it has an emotional sense of common identification. “I feel that same thing,” or “I feel the same way,” added to the “Been there, done that,” or “I want to do that, too.”On Nov 22, 2022, at 9:17 AM, SuStel via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> wrote:On 11/22/2022 8:19 AM, zrajm via tlhIngan-Hol wrote:
Though it makes me think that Klingon 2 might abbreviate even more and just say «je» alone (skipping the verb altogether). – This is a common practice in (at least Swedish) sign language, though it seems a bit weird from an English speaker's perspective.
Do you think that you (prior to this discussion) would've understood if just a naked «je» was used? Or is that to abbreviate too much?I'd have understood, but just understanding doesn't count for much. If in English I said things like "I want pizza" and "I think that was very nice," and someone with me kept saying "Also!" right after me, I'd get it. That doesn't mean they're using the language correctly.
I've been studying Welsh for a while. Welsh has a gazillion ways to say yes or no, and you have to pick the right one for the right circumstance. If someone asked me Wyt ti'n hoffi cwrw? ("Do you like beer?") and I answered Naddo ("No" about a past-tense action) instead of Nac ydw (literally "I am not"), I would have used the language incorrectly but I daresay I would be understood. I'd just sound like an idiot.
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