On Monday, June 13, 2022, De&#39;vID &lt;<a href="mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com" target="_blank">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le lun. 13 juin 2022 à 18:11, Ed Bailey &lt;<a href="mailto:bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com</a><wbr>&gt; a écrit :</div></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Another thing you&#39;ve made me reconsider: I have definitely used both {ngIq} and {Hoch} following a plural noun, and while intelligible, it may have been totally unidiomatic usage.</div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I don&#39;t think this works. Dr. Okrand considered {Qapla&#39;meywIj Hoch}, which appeared in the first edition of the paq&#39;batlh, to have been a mistake. {Hoch} following an uncountable noun means &quot;all of X&quot;, as in {nIn Hoch}. See my post &quot;{Hoch} before and after a noun&quot; about this.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the quick and definitive response. That there&#39;s an example he considers a mistake seals the deal. It&#39;s certainly no problem to make it clear which weapons I&#39;m talking about without doing this, e.g. {ngIq nuHmeyvam}.</div><div><br></div><div>~mIp&#39;av</div>