On Thu, 2017-08-10 at 12:25 -0400, SuStel wrote:On 8/10/2017 11:52 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:...* *What I'm trying to understand (and the more this thread continues, the "trying" becomes "struggling"), is why -as De'vID wrote- "the pattern is {X-vo' Y-Daq chegh} and not {Y-Daq X-vo' chegh}".I don't know anything about there being a REASON it can only work that way. What I know is what Voragh has already pointed out: we have many canonical examples of *X-vo' Y-Daq OVS* and none of *Y-Daq X-vo' OVS.* The answer to your question is "that's just the way it is."For me, a leading -Daq would be the location where the whole [-vo' -Daq chegh] is taking place. HoD - [nuqDaq beq? yuQ ghoSta''a'?] yaS - [jISovchu'be'. yuQ ghoSlaw'] yuQ ghoS HoD. beq nej. Meanwhile... DujDaq puchpa'vo' vutpa'Daq chegh beq.
I don't think you'd even need to appeal to three syntactic nouns
to do that: DujDaq puchpa'vo' chegh on the ship, he
returns from the bathroom. There's probably some scoping
rules baked into our language-using brains that does this. No way
to tell if Klingons do the same.
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