On 5/24/2021 8:21 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
This is another subject in the category of "I don't understand because English isn't my native language". And the thing I don't understand, is if a native English speaker hearing "lightning" will understand/can understand (based on context), "lightning bolt" too.

In English, lightning, lightning bolt, thunder, and thunderbolt can all be used kinda-sorta interchangeably. We understand the difference between thunder (the sound) and lightning (the visible discharge), but people mix them up all the time. It's not unusual for someone to see a flash in the sky and declare, "I saw thunder," or to hear a rumble and say, "I hear lightning." They're not technically correct to do so, but it's very common.

Someone being more careful would probably distinguish them like so:

Lightning: uncountable noun referring to atmospheric electrical discharge or sometimes just its visible component.

Lightning bolt: countable noun referring to a single electrical discharge.

Thunder: uncountable noun referring to the sound caused by atmospheric electrical discharge.

Thunderbolt: countable noun referring to the sound caused by a single electrical discharge.

These are also not necessarily exclusively correct.


I want to say "One of the attributes of Zeus is the lightning bolt"; i.e. "the thing which looks like an arrow/spear made of lightning" which is held by Zeus. (Picture: https://stock.adobe.com/gr_en/search/images?k=zeus+lightning+hand)

Is it enough to write:

pe'bIl 'oH wa' zeus DI'on''e'
one of the characteristics of zeus is the lightning

Or should I necessarily write:

pe'bIl tIH 'oH wa' zeus DI'on''e'
one of the characteristics of zeus is the lightning ray/beam

Lightning doesn't come in rays. Unless Okrand has said otherwise, there is no such thing as a pe'bIl tIH outside of pulp films and novels. I dunno, maybe the word tIH is more flexible than that, but if it is, I'm not aware of any confirmation of this. Maybe Klingons talk about pan emit sparks. I dunno.

Since the English word lightning could refer to either the general phenomenon or a singular bolt, I don't think you'll be able to answer exactly what pe'bIl means. I'd just leave it as pe'bIl 'oH wa' Zeus DI'on'e'.

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