Am 11.03.2019 um 17:11 schrieb SuStel:
It's awkward in English to say /enter here;/
In this entire discussion, this is what is my question:
can you really {'el} the {naDev}?
I think of {'el} as "going into an enclosed area". Even the sector does not have walls around it, but it has an invisible or imagined border. "here" does not have a set border, it's more like a spot, wherever you point your finger at.
Perhaps that's the reason why it sounds awkward.
Unless I have missed a relevant canon example.
naDev and here are deitic, completely dependent on surrounding context to have meaning. Whatever here or naDev you're referring to has the properties of that place. If here or naDev is a box, then it's got the properties of a box.
I don't know if naDev vI'el is awkward in Klingon, but if
it is, it's probably because of the usual redundancy of
locative-sense verbs having locative-marked objects. naDev
is not marked locative, but it's always locative anyway.
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